Hacker And The Fed

107 points by ArtRichards 2 years ago | 58 comments
  • motohagiography 2 years ago
    It's a podcast by a rat and a fed. They have nothing to do with hackers.
    • 1B05H1N 2 years ago
      The guy who ratted on his whole crew?
      • danuker 2 years ago
        Would you rat on your colleagues or accept 120 years in jail?
        • prvit 2 years ago
          Sabu did much more than just rat on his colleagues.

          If he had just ratted on his colleagues and was apologetic about it, he wouldn't get a fraction of the hate he does.

          • danuker 2 years ago
            I rephrase then: would you do something other than what the feds ask you (malice-free compliance), when you have your freedom on the line?
          • ROTMetro 2 years ago
            No
            • slim 2 years ago
              I would accept 120 years in jail
              • naikrovek 2 years ago
                I think when faced with that reality that you might not be so sure.
          • rurban 2 years ago
            Isn't Sabu long dead already? I really thought he is, strange. But in 2022 he looks alive and well: https://newsday.co.tt/2022/10/06/hacker-to-deliver-keynote-a...
          • triyambakam 2 years ago
            This is a good example of how government and hacker aren't always only good and only bad. It reminds me of the Silk Road agent Shaun Bridges.
            • _jal 2 years ago
              I realize that is a stereotypical belief state, but do many people here really hold those beliefs?

              Having known several folks in both of those camps, my experience is that career choice provides very little information about the chooser's ethics.

              I will note that both categories have complex relationships with following the law, both personally and professionally.

              • Waterluvian 2 years ago
                Globalization made our villages far too large and complex to handle mentally. Many of us seek very simple abstractions such as someone or something being good or evil despite any nuance. I feel this is especially visible in politics.
                • lawrenceyan 2 years ago
                  Lawful evil and chaotic good?
              • ElijahLynn 2 years ago
                Would be nice to see this on Spotify and Google Podcasts too. I searched and it looks like Apple Podcasts only for right now.

                tldr from this 2 minute intro is that they caught Sabu and said you can have 120+ years in prison or join them...

                https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-hacker-and...

              • qvrjuec 2 years ago
                A modern day Frank Abagnale. Pretty interesting, excited to find time to listen
              • jollyllama 2 years ago
                I guess you can profit off of your crimes if you inform on your co-conspirators.
                • zmgsabst 2 years ago
                  Or just entrap some lonely kids.
                  • prvit 2 years ago
                    Why is this getting downvoted? That's exactly what Sabu was doing.

                    He and this FBI guy would approach random kids on IRC in order to entice them to join "his" prestigious hacker group. They weren't going after existing criminals, but going out of their way to create new ones. Largely underage children.

                    • jollyllama 2 years ago
                      I wonder if they're still in the justice system (prison/probation/etc.)
                  • wavefunction 2 years ago
                    Yeah, Sabu is a real creep. I hope this podcast fails.
                    • prvit 2 years ago
                      Indeed. And it's worth it to note that Sabu isn't a creep merely because he snitched to save his own ass.

                      Sabu worked hard to entrap more and more people, largely underage children, and had a lot of fun doing so.

                      This isn't a guy who simply made a deal to save his own ass and felt bad about it. Sabu never apologized, but rather proceeded to attack the people he'd entrapped.

                      • tunap 2 years ago
                        Power corrupts.
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                    • lake_vincent 2 years ago
                      Reads like a headline from r/nottheonion
                      • rosnd 2 years ago
                        How come? Informants like Sabu have to work very closely with their handlers, these guys probably spent countless hours sitting next to each other, working together as some kind of a team.

                        It's not like this is an unique story either, Maksym Popov comes to mind.

                        • lake_vincent 2 years ago
                          Like the other commenter said, it's the podcast part that I find funny. A hacker and special agent, natural enemies, becoming BFF'S and making a podcast together sounds like the premise of a Netflix show, hence the Oniony nature of the headline
                          • matai_kolila 2 years ago
                            Yeah, but "podcast" kind of throws it a bit...
                            • rosnd 2 years ago
                              Which is also a pretty standard career move for federal LEOs.
                          • 2 years ago
                          • omega3 2 years ago
                            In the 2min intro the fed claims he took down Anonymous. Interesting.
                            • prvit 2 years ago
                              The whole point of the podcast is to tell made up stories in order to boost the child-entrapper Chris Tarbells public speaking career https://www.leadingauthorities.com/uk/speakers/chris-tarbell
                              • DerekBickerton 2 years ago
                                I still see those videos on Youtube with a person in Guy Fawkes mask announcing their plans to take down (DDoS) such and such a service. They're still around, and they're not as cool anymore though. Anyone can make such a video and then slap 'We are legion, we do not forget' etc
                                • prvit 2 years ago
                                  Anonymous was never a real thing, there was never any kind of an organisation. It's just a meme.
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                                • rosnd 2 years ago
                                  That link really threw me off, I spent a minute or two clicking on it on autopilot baffled as to why OS X has decided that I really should be using the podcasts app instead of safari.
                                  • swyx 2 years ago
                                    seriously, Apple's weird obsession with hijacking the open web to push their own software is the most anti-user-friendly thing it does

                                    dear Apple: you have 27% market share of podcast apps. please recognize that the rest of us like using other apps and stop pushing your defaults so hard.

                                    • Luc 2 years ago
                                      And on iOS I can’t visit the link because it insists on using the Podcasts app, which I have uninstalled. Lame.
                                      • blondin 2 years ago
                                        oh my god! is it awful on desktop too? the podcasts app is the most infuriating monstrosity apple has been forcing on us for years now.
                                        • mandmandam 2 years ago
                                          I see you're not an Apple Music user :/
                                          • girvo 2 years ago
                                            See I can tolerate, sometimes even like Apple Music.

                                            Podcasts though? Irredeemable.

                                        • 2 years ago
                                        • mxmilkiib 2 years ago
                                          ytcracker - #antisec 22 Jun 2011

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YoDt-MxhHg

                                          871,836 views - 4.48K subscribers - nerdysouth

                                          UPDATE 2012.03.09 i may indeed be the first rapper in history to endorse a suspected internet snitch. evidence is somewhat overwhelming for it to be simply a disinformation campaign, but, personally, i believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. i will discuss some of my thoughts on www.ytcracker.com.

                                          i sadly will probably retire this song in its current form from my live performances just because i can't in good conscience rap about this until the grieving period has passed and this song becomes vintage and cute again.

                                          kind of like jokes about the spanish inquisition being funny now but they weren't very funny in the years circa 1478-1834 (yes, i did wikipedia this).

                                          we now return to your regularly scheduled video information.

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                                          1999 bitch. (click "show more" if you like reading lyrics and want mp3 and stuff) swed.

                                          twitters: @lulzsec @realytcracker @beats

                                          www.ytcracker.com www.digitalgangster.com

                                          download link: http://ytcracker.com/antisec/ytcracke...

                                          -

                                          lyrics:

                                          -

                                          im the defacto leader of a movement

                                          screaming "hack the planet" back in 99

                                          hacktivism in its prime globalHell had the .mil rooted

                                          alphabet soup and their troops in the suits kid

                                          kicking down doors and seizing my equipment

                                          blocking all my shipments sitting on their hitlist

                                          0day radical emphatic beat addict

                                          and that stab hit i envelope the game call me rabbit

                                          -

                                          hop to hop i run the internet equivocally

                                          bitch i be hit em with the bytestyle symmetry

                                          digi g digital gangster repping till im dead

                                          steady grep apache logs when im looking for the feds

                                          fast forward now the internet anonymous

                                          and captains of the lulzboat raise the mast prominent

                                          dominant hacks - antisec on that new new

                                          dropping tables in mysql like it was some poo poo

                                          -

                                          pound antisec - pounding through your speakers

                                          pound antisec - pound it to the bleachers

                                          pound antisec - if youre sitting below deck

                                          in the lulzboat salute bitch and show some respect

                                          -

                                          lulzsec bitch they fold ya hacked sony

                                          got that md5 we rocked ya macaroni

                                          cook coke crack then boil like a noodle

                                          while hbgary stay toast like a streudel

                                          rootshell on ya bootstrap - now whos that?

                                          botnet mjoin and drop your whole c class

                                          see class? it is evident we flossing

                                          ion cannon in the proc list ddossing

                                          -

                                          lean back bitch we be sending an injection

                                          magic quotes off JOIN TABLE intersection

                                          put it up on pastebin it wont get erased then

                                          20 million hits to your dome like some cavemen

                                          ask cnn - you want a interview?

                                          send a PRIVMSG to the nickname sabu

                                          on irc - man we convening

                                          this some 99 throwback shit that im screaming

                                          • rosnd 2 years ago
                                            Why post this? The lyrics are bad, the rapping itself isn't good, and to finish it off the rapper himself is a big time poser with a day job at a bigco.
                                            • mxmilkiib 2 years ago
                                              Eh it's kitch at worse, it's a bit of history, maybe you had to be there, what's wrong with an artist being a poser, and are you trying to shame someone for having a "lowly" job?
                                              • prvit 2 years ago
                                                If you were a Goldman Sachs employee rapping about dealing drugs, you'd be ridiculed and quite possibly end up shot.

                                                Every year multiple rappers lose their lives over this stuff. Not a good thing, but indisputably a part of the culture.

                                                Obviously nobody should shoot ytracker, but in the cultural context it's totally reasonable to make fun of him for being a corporate stooge.

                                                • 2 years ago