Hacker And The Fed
107 points by ArtRichards 2 years ago | 58 comments- motohagiography 2 years agoIt's a podcast by a rat and a fed. They have nothing to do with hackers.
- 1B05H1N 2 years agoThe guy who ratted on his whole crew?
- danuker 2 years agoWould you rat on your colleagues or accept 120 years in jail?
- prvit 2 years agoSabu did much more than just rat on his colleagues.
If he had just ratted on his colleagues and was apologetic about it, he wouldn't get a fraction of the hate he does.
- danuker 2 years agoI rephrase then: would you do something other than what the feds ask you (malice-free compliance), when you have your freedom on the line?
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- ROTMetro 2 years agoNo
- slim 2 years agoI would accept 120 years in jail
- naikrovek 2 years agoI think when faced with that reality that you might not be so sure.
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- rurban 2 years agoIsn't Sabu long dead already? I really thought he is, strange. But in 2022 he looks alive and well: https://newsday.co.tt/2022/10/06/hacker-to-deliver-keynote-a...
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- triyambakam 2 years agoThis is a good example of how government and hacker aren't always only good and only bad. It reminds me of the Silk Road agent Shaun Bridges.
- _jal 2 years agoI realize that is a stereotypical belief state, but do many people here really hold those beliefs?
Having known several folks in both of those camps, my experience is that career choice provides very little information about the chooser's ethics.
I will note that both categories have complex relationships with following the law, both personally and professionally.
- Waterluvian 2 years agoGlobalization made our villages far too large and complex to handle mentally. Many of us seek very simple abstractions such as someone or something being good or evil despite any nuance. I feel this is especially visible in politics.
- lawrenceyan 2 years agoLawful evil and chaotic good?
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- ElijahLynn 2 years agoWould be nice to see this on Spotify and Google Podcasts too. I searched and it looks like Apple Podcasts only for right now.
tldr from this 2 minute intro is that they caught Sabu and said you can have 120+ years in prison or join them...
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-hacker-and...
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- thrill 2 years agoGoogle Podcast usually takes a week or so to find the feed.
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- qvrjuec 2 years agoA modern day Frank Abagnale. Pretty interesting, excited to find time to listen
- O__________O 2 years agoRelated statement by Frank Abagnale:
https://www.abagnale.com/Frank-W-Abagnale-Jr-Film-And-Book-C...
https://whyy.org/segments/the-greatest-hoax-on-earth/
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Created a post for topic, since I don’t think most people are aware:
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- tunap 2 years agoThe answer to "Why the downvotes?":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale#Veracity_of_cla...
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- jollyllama 2 years agoI guess you can profit off of your crimes if you inform on your co-conspirators.
- zmgsabst 2 years agoOr just entrap some lonely kids.
- prvit 2 years agoWhy is this getting downvoted? That's exactly what Sabu was doing.
He and this FBI guy would approach random kids on IRC in order to entice them to join "his" prestigious hacker group. They weren't going after existing criminals, but going out of their way to create new ones. Largely underage children.
- jollyllama 2 years agoI wonder if they're still in the justice system (prison/probation/etc.)
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- wavefunction 2 years agoYeah, Sabu is a real creep. I hope this podcast fails.
- prvit 2 years agoIndeed. And it's worth it to note that Sabu isn't a creep merely because he snitched to save his own ass.
Sabu worked hard to entrap more and more people, largely underage children, and had a lot of fun doing so.
This isn't a guy who simply made a deal to save his own ass and felt bad about it. Sabu never apologized, but rather proceeded to attack the people he'd entrapped.
- tunap 2 years agoPower corrupts.
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- lake_vincent 2 years agoReads like a headline from r/nottheonion
- rosnd 2 years agoHow come? Informants like Sabu have to work very closely with their handlers, these guys probably spent countless hours sitting next to each other, working together as some kind of a team.
It's not like this is an unique story either, Maksym Popov comes to mind.
- lake_vincent 2 years agoLike the other commenter said, it's the podcast part that I find funny. A hacker and special agent, natural enemies, becoming BFF'S and making a podcast together sounds like the premise of a Netflix show, hence the Oniony nature of the headline
- matai_kolila 2 years agoYeah, but "podcast" kind of throws it a bit...
- rosnd 2 years agoWhich is also a pretty standard career move for federal LEOs.
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- omega3 2 years agoIn the 2min intro the fed claims he took down Anonymous. Interesting.
- prvit 2 years agoThe whole point of the podcast is to tell made up stories in order to boost the child-entrapper Chris Tarbells public speaking career https://www.leadingauthorities.com/uk/speakers/chris-tarbell
- DerekBickerton 2 years agoI still see those videos on Youtube with a person in Guy Fawkes mask announcing their plans to take down (DDoS) such and such a service. They're still around, and they're not as cool anymore though. Anyone can make such a video and then slap 'We are legion, we do not forget' etc
- prvit 2 years agoAnonymous was never a real thing, there was never any kind of an organisation. It's just a meme.
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- rosnd 2 years agoThat link really threw me off, I spent a minute or two clicking on it on autopilot baffled as to why OS X has decided that I really should be using the podcasts app instead of safari.
- swyx 2 years agoseriously, Apple's weird obsession with hijacking the open web to push their own software is the most anti-user-friendly thing it does
dear Apple: you have 27% market share of podcast apps. please recognize that the rest of us like using other apps and stop pushing your defaults so hard.
- Luc 2 years agoAnd on iOS I can’t visit the link because it insists on using the Podcasts app, which I have uninstalled. Lame.
- blondin 2 years agooh my god! is it awful on desktop too? the podcasts app is the most infuriating monstrosity apple has been forcing on us for years now.
- mandmandam 2 years agoI see you're not an Apple Music user :/
- girvo 2 years agoSee I can tolerate, sometimes even like Apple Music.
Podcasts though? Irredeemable.
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- mxmilkiib 2 years agoytcracker - #antisec 22 Jun 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YoDt-MxhHg
871,836 views - 4.48K subscribers - nerdysouth
UPDATE 2012.03.09 i may indeed be the first rapper in history to endorse a suspected internet snitch. evidence is somewhat overwhelming for it to be simply a disinformation campaign, but, personally, i believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. i will discuss some of my thoughts on www.ytcracker.com.
i sadly will probably retire this song in its current form from my live performances just because i can't in good conscience rap about this until the grieving period has passed and this song becomes vintage and cute again.
kind of like jokes about the spanish inquisition being funny now but they weren't very funny in the years circa 1478-1834 (yes, i did wikipedia this).
we now return to your regularly scheduled video information.
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1999 bitch. (click "show more" if you like reading lyrics and want mp3 and stuff) swed.
twitters: @lulzsec @realytcracker @beats
www.ytcracker.com www.digitalgangster.com
download link: http://ytcracker.com/antisec/ytcracke...
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lyrics:
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im the defacto leader of a movement
screaming "hack the planet" back in 99
hacktivism in its prime globalHell had the .mil rooted
alphabet soup and their troops in the suits kid
kicking down doors and seizing my equipment
blocking all my shipments sitting on their hitlist
0day radical emphatic beat addict
and that stab hit i envelope the game call me rabbit
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hop to hop i run the internet equivocally
bitch i be hit em with the bytestyle symmetry
digi g digital gangster repping till im dead
steady grep apache logs when im looking for the feds
fast forward now the internet anonymous
and captains of the lulzboat raise the mast prominent
dominant hacks - antisec on that new new
dropping tables in mysql like it was some poo poo
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pound antisec - pounding through your speakers
pound antisec - pound it to the bleachers
pound antisec - if youre sitting below deck
in the lulzboat salute bitch and show some respect
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lulzsec bitch they fold ya hacked sony
got that md5 we rocked ya macaroni
cook coke crack then boil like a noodle
while hbgary stay toast like a streudel
rootshell on ya bootstrap - now whos that?
botnet mjoin and drop your whole c class
see class? it is evident we flossing
ion cannon in the proc list ddossing
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lean back bitch we be sending an injection
magic quotes off JOIN TABLE intersection
put it up on pastebin it wont get erased then
20 million hits to your dome like some cavemen
ask cnn - you want a interview?
send a PRIVMSG to the nickname sabu
on irc - man we convening
this some 99 throwback shit that im screaming
- rosnd 2 years agoWhy post this? The lyrics are bad, the rapping itself isn't good, and to finish it off the rapper himself is a big time poser with a day job at a bigco.
- mxmilkiib 2 years agoEh it's kitch at worse, it's a bit of history, maybe you had to be there, what's wrong with an artist being a poser, and are you trying to shame someone for having a "lowly" job?
- prvit 2 years agoIf you were a Goldman Sachs employee rapping about dealing drugs, you'd be ridiculed and quite possibly end up shot.
Every year multiple rappers lose their lives over this stuff. Not a good thing, but indisputably a part of the culture.
Obviously nobody should shoot ytracker, but in the cultural context it's totally reasonable to make fun of him for being a corporate stooge.
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