2 Days Loss From Transfers Out Of Godaddy.com: 37,000
76 points by terrellm 13 years ago | 29 comments- powertower 13 years agoSeriously misleading title.
GoDaddy, with 50,000,000 domains, has lost almost nothing, about 1000 domains, when you factor in new registrations and new transfer-ins.
We would need the historical records to see more into this.
Hell, it might even look like their registrations and transfer-ins are up due to being in the news.
I seriously doubt that GoDaddy gives a shit about this.
Their domain business is a complete "loss leader" operation that costs them about a dollar of loss on each domain they sell.
Hosting accounts is where it counts the most for them and I can tell you few, if any, people will be transferring hosting accounts out as it's a complete pain in the ass.
- gerggerg 13 years agoI seriously doubt that GoDaddy gives a shit about this.
If by this you mean literal outflow of domains, then I agree. But if you mean public relations impact their support of and then half ass retraction of support for SOPA then I disagree. I think the long term effects of all this calamity are something they very much care about.
- noahc 13 years agoIn general you don't want to piss off your best customers. The type of person who owns 20+ domains is the type of person you want as a customer (lower support costs, lower cost per customer acquisition).
The person who owns 20+ domains is the type of person who probably is someone who cares about SOPA.
I don't think these numbers, really mean anything, to be honest. But I do think that pissing off the people who are the cheapest customers to acquire and support and the people who people are going to ask where to register their domains at is probably not the best business strategy long term.
- noahc 13 years ago
- nonce34234 13 years agoIf a company turns a profit of $20,000 a day, and then suddenly it turns a profit of $1 a day, do you think that is not going to catch their attention, despite not being a loss in absolute terms?
It is a huge loss in terms of day over day profits. This is attention grabbing for a business.
GoDaddy looks at day over day sales and sees a drop. It is probably the most important event that's happened to that department in months. We already know it has gotten their attention because now they are doing damage control, however disingenuous or mitigated by overriding concerns it may be.
- kinkora 13 years agoyou forget to factor in future sales.
It may be true that GoDaddy still has loads of domains but I can bet ya that a lot of it are shady websites. If GoDaddy is seen to support something that may lead to their websites shutting down, you can be sure they (and future customers) are looking elsewhere.
In other words, GoDaddy does give a shit. Is not about what they have now, is about whether they can get anymore future sales.
- stock_toaster 13 years agoNot to mention renewals. I hear of a few people with hundreds of domains that don't want to renew all at once. So they are going to let them near expiration and just transfer them away as they get closer to expiry, so as to spread the cost out.
- stock_toaster 13 years ago
- yuhong 13 years agoThis is only what was transferred so far though. Many major sites are taking a while to transfer because they want to avoid downtime.
- RKearney 13 years agoThere is zero downtime when you transfer a domain.
- jaylevitt 13 years agoThat's absolutely not true if you also use the registrar for DNS. We transferred a domain away from Network Solutions a few weeks ago, and got bit by the combination of:
1. When you re-point your domain at non-NetSol servers, they momentarily point toward a server that in turn says your A record is their "business profile" default landing page. It takes a few minutes before pointing correctly at your new name server
2. Many large caching nameservers don't obey TTL; our SOA's TTL was 7200, or 3 hours, but we saw servers at RCN, BellSouth and Cox serving our old SOA nearly 24 hours later.
Together, that means that for 24 hours, some people got this lovely page: http://www.vttcorp.com/ instead of our server.
- CWuestefeld 13 years agoBut if you're transferring web and email hosting, as I am, it takes a lot more logistical work.
The domains leaving are just the leading indicator. If they're going away, there's plenty of reason to believe that other customers, that will hurt them more, are working on the issue.
- OstiaAntica 13 years agoI'm switching SSL which is more complicated.
- jaylevitt 13 years ago
- RKearney 13 years ago
- gerggerg 13 years ago
- cloudwalking 13 years agoLooks like GoDaddy didn't actually withdraw their SOPA support: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/npair/godaddy_ha...
- lewispb 13 years agoThis is surely just tracking nameserver records (pointing to the Go Daddy domaincontrol.com domain), the actual number of domains transferred in or out may be higher.
- citricsquid 13 years agoNo, whois reports the registrar that manages the domain, the DNS is irrelevant. For example: http://whois.domaintools.com/citricsquid.com switch to "Registration" profile, "ICANN Registrar:GODADDY.COM, INC."
The one flaw with this is that it takes "up to" 7 days to transfer depending on the registrars in question. I moved a domain to godaddy 4 days ago and it still doesn't show that it's with Godaddy.
edit: Nevermind, you meant in this specific case where it's using DNS. You're right, although it can be done via the whois data.
- FreeKill 13 years agoAlso, unless people are on top of it, it takes more than 5 days usually to transfer a domain. I'd imagine most people who transferred will be waiting through that window of time rather than digging for the hidden confirm quickly option.
- citricsquid 13 years ago
- eps 13 years ago1. And their typical daily transfer-out rate is...
2. It'd be interesting to see where these domains went? Namecheap, Gandi, etc.
- yuhong 13 years ago"It should also be noted that for the three days prior to the call for the boycott on Thursday, Godaddy had this amount of transfers out:
that being Monday (8,800), Tuesday (13,000) and Wednesday (14,500)."
- kayhi 13 years agoI would imagine that Namecheap (et. al.) may be able to put up their influx of domains as a hot PR issue.
- yuhong 13 years ago
- yummies 13 years agoNot a very useful statistic considering they must process thousands of transfers a day due to regular business activity. A better stat might be % increase or at least the number of transfers above the average. Admittedly, that would make for a far less catchy blog post.
- jpdoctor 13 years agoWhether 37,000 is a big number or not: Kudos to the community for making themselves heard.
However, godaddy is a pimple on the economy. Somehow, someway, this kind of activity needs to be multiplied 1000x.
- mmatey 13 years agoOk.. This is either just way off or I'm not reading this correctly. They had nearly as many transferred in than transferred out yesterday.
Transfered In (20,034) Transferred Out (21,054)
1020 domains is nothing particularly comparing it to the total pointed there: 32,159,050
- jvandenbroeck 13 years agoif I interpreted the source of the article correctly, then the article makes a big mistake, they count the domains that change from godaddies nameservers. If you don't host with godaddy it wouldn't show in the statistics. Check the link to which the article refers.
- science_robot 13 years agoin domains not dollars.
- pokoleo 13 years agohow long until they realize that it's not spelled reditt?
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- agj 13 years agoMinus the mean of transfers out this week = 11800 total. That probably doesn't equate to very much profit loss. It's good that people are voting with their money, but we need to move away from the GoDaddy circlejerk -- there are plenty of other targets.
Also, 21000 + 15000 = 36000, but that's besides the point.