Bunny AI

275 points by oedmarap 2 years ago | 141 comments
  • igammarays 2 years ago
    Am I the only one disappointed by this new wave of AI hype? Seriously, autogenerated avatars? When are our best minds going to work towards actually improving the lives of people? Not monkey JPEG scams, not chat bot bureaucracies, not self-driving cars that fail in bad weather and kill you, but something that actually alleviates humanity's biggest problems. Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, affordable housing crises in the West, content moderation, the loneliness epidemic - there's so much that needs to be done if we can just step out of the current hype cycle and focus on human problems, not just looking for ways to use cool tech.
    • cshimmin 2 years ago
      I'm pretty sure "our best minds" aren't the ones building the ape avatars. They are working on the fundamental advancements of AI itself. Once those tools are built, it doesn't take nearly as much "best brains" to tweak them for specific applications.

      In other words, you can just think of all these things (cash grabs and otherwise) as an effect of the rapid advancements in AI, in this case manifesting as a growth area of economic activity. As another poster said, others are working on medical applications, climate models, etc. It's not a zero-sum game on the application side.

      • graphe 2 years ago
        How is AI going to solve the problems of energy, homelessness, pollution, the environment, affordable housing crises in the West, content moderation, and the loneliness epidemic?

        Think of what you’re asking from it. You don’t ask coke to solve corona or google to solve world hunger. None of those issues are bottlenecked by AI. If you want to solve those issues, you shouldn’t expect AI researchers to fix them, you can be that change.

        • mschuster91 2 years ago
          They are asking not for an AI to solve these problems, but to take the brains of those people who develop AIs and put them to use for other, more productive fields. Which is something I tend to agree with and would add advertising, finance/quant funds and cryptocurrencies into the mix - humanity doesn't need either of these for survival.

          However, the core problem is that we have solutions for all these problems with technology that exists today:

          - energy can be produced by solar, wind and for baseload geothermal and biogas. We might need to shift certain high-consumption industries such as smelters to seasonal and time-flexible production though, to accomodate a lack of solar power in winter and at night.

          - pollution is a solved problem as well. Place filters on the exhaust stacks of industries that absolutely need some kind of burning stuff, transition ICE vehicles to electric vehicles and eventually, switch a lot of the traffic load of individual cars to a mesh of public transit (tramways and light rail), to remove the emissions caused by tires.

          - affordable housing is a solved problem as well. Build socialized, community-owned housing like Vienna does, nationalize large landlords, improve infrastructure in rural areas to remove pressure on urban housing, and regulate where large employers can set up shop to avoid concentrations that cannot reasonably be supplied with workers and traffic.

          - content moderation is a plain and simple matter of employing enough people

          - "loneliness epidemic"... that's the only tough one. We do know what causes loneliness, and a part of that is that young people have to move across the country, often enough across continents, to find gainful employment. Fixing rural infrastructure should help a bit, as should better availability of decent affordable housing - IIRC, a contributing factor both in Japan and Italy was that young people can't afford to move out of their parents' homes or if, then only into essentially sheds, so neither is conductive to invite a potential partner to.

          The problem is, politicians today are not driven by what science and history has shown to be successful, they are driven by party ideology and populist bullshit. That leads them to take decisions that make situations objectively worse.

          • Gravityloss 2 years ago
            Well it has been used for protein folding already.

            Maybe it can be used for electrode chemistry as well.

          • EricLeer 2 years ago
            Check out the climate change ai[0] community! There are many people working on the interesting interface between ai and relevant problems.

            I think the main thing to take into account that many of these problems and organisations still live in an age of 200X tech, so already implementing current age practices can result in great improvements (although this does not result in flashy press announcments or papers).

            [0] https://www.climatechange.ai/

            • hackpit 2 years ago
              Will do, thank you.
            • snowram 2 years ago
              Machine learning has been used for cancer imaging and geospatial detection for some years now. You can't blame the internet to hype the funs and lucratives parts of IAs first.
              • spaceman_2020 2 years ago
                Why not think of it this way: these tools free up our time and make it possible to spend the rest of it on more substantial pursuits.

                I volunteer at an animal shelter. If AI tools can free up 10 hours/week from my schedule, that’s 10 extra hours I can potentially volunteer

                • antifa 2 years ago
                  But that's not what's going to happen. 99% of the time that 10/hours a week is going to be liquidated in the form of 25% less high-paying jobs.
                • Abishek_Muthian 2 years ago
                  >Energy, homelessness, pollution and the environment, affordable housing crises in the West, content moderation, the loneliness epidemic

                  I think if an capable AI in the future is given the opportunity to fix this with zero restrictions, Then most likely it is going to uproot entire system of governance along with several ultra-rich and powerful people.

                  Hence they'll try to never let it happen.

                  • dismantlethesun 2 years ago
                    I’m working on AI of this type: essentially retraining and fine tuning existing systems.

                    I can assure you, I am not one of the world’s best minds. To me, this feels like gluing APIs together, with a bit less cursing than in my PHP days.

                    • artur_makly 2 years ago
                      thank you for saying what I have felt for the last 20yrs in tech. I will humbly add going to Mars to the list of wasted resources. It’s already gone beyond the funny meme phase.
                      • wwilim 2 years ago
                        Don't you think working to solve homelessness has a slightly threshold of entry than 128x128 image generation?
                        • joking 2 years ago
                          well, an ape ai cdn would be the best way to destroy the monkey jpg scam. Who would pay for them in that case?
                        • zzzeek 2 years ago
                          Saw a great toot yesterday.

                          Startups and media business are looking to make a windfall on AI generated art, music, code, writing, and other services. The payment models will be subscriptions, pay per use, and other models that make more money the more content is produced.

                          But there's still no AI (with associated mechanics) that can fold laundry.

                          (I think the latter would be really useful.)

                          • kache_ 2 years ago
                            >There's still no AI that can fold laundry

                            We're actually really close to general robot agents that operate in your home. Check out googleAI's saycan & RT-1 systems

                            https://ai.googleblog.com/2022/12/rt-1-robotics-transformer-....

                            • causality0 2 years ago
                              That's gonna be great until someone hacks it and has it stab me to death in my sleep.
                              • danielheath 2 years ago
                                Much like my fears about bluetooth connected cars being hacked to crash on the highway, it turns out that - by and large - nobody wants to kill me (or at least, not badly enough to do anything about it).
                                • tryauuum 2 years ago
                                  just unplug the robot before you go to sleep, an easy solution
                                  • seanw444 2 years ago
                                    More worried about government backdoors.
                                    • kache_ 2 years ago
                                      cars are great until someone deliberately runs into me
                                    • mnutt 2 years ago
                                      • autoexec 2 years ago
                                        No way would I bring some company's robot into my house, especially not one that has anything to do with Google. Maybe it does your laundry and dishes for you, but you can bet that it'll be recording everything that it sees and hears and sending all that data back to the people it actually works for so that they can use that data against you or sell it to someone else who will.

                                        Unless I can find a model I can verify has zero networking ability and isn't gathering and storing data for somebody else, no thanks!

                                      • dweekly 2 years ago
                                        I was impressed with FoldiMate's approach here and really liked the CEO, Gal, but unfortunately the founder foundered and FoldiMate folded, mate.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoldiMate

                                        • number6 2 years ago
                                          From Wikipedia:

                                          FoldiMate was a California-based company developing a robotic laundry-folding machine founded in 2012. Their clothes folding machine was aimed to enter the market by the end of 2019. *In 2021, the company folded*.

                                          Emphasis is mine. Great Pun!

                                          • happytiger 2 years ago
                                            Yes, but I want an AI that tells me what kind of laundry folding machine to build, or better yet designs it for me. That's where we're going.
                                            • zzzeek 2 years ago
                                              that's what I'm talking about. I think AI would approach "laundry folding" in ways we never thought of, using simpler machinery than would have been expected in novel ways. this is pretty specific to something very geometric / topological like folding things.
                                          • danwee 2 years ago
                                            I just want some AI that can cut my hair, exactly the way I want it.
                                            • dopeboy 2 years ago
                                              I worked on this for a year :)

                                              It was called buzz robotics and had a couple posts make it to the front page here. Even got a YC interview.

                                              I haven’t gotten around to writing a post mortem but I’ll just say - it’s a very hard problem to solve given the dexterity and safety requirements.

                                              Maybe one day.

                                            • amelius 2 years ago
                                              Or cook a meal.

                                              Much more useful than driving a car, because in a car you're mostly idling anyway so you might as well drive.

                                              • codeyperson 2 years ago
                                                But if the car drove itself, we could cook meals in the car...
                                                • coffeebeqn 2 years ago
                                                  These are much more robotics problems. The “AI” is probably sufficient as long as it has the correct sensors and dexterity
                                                • ge96 2 years ago
                                                  • PakG1 2 years ago
                                                    Oh, not sure I want an AI that can bring sharp tools near my soft flesh. Long-term future, please, don't need it yet that badly.
                                                    • conanbatt 2 years ago
                                                      What for, you can use AI to make it look like it on any picture, no scissors required!
                                                    • mejutoco 2 years ago
                                                      I want AI that separates the trash into plastics, metal, etc. so we do not have to do it (or for the people that cannot be bothered to do it).
                                                      • 5amdotis 2 years ago
                                                        In a big city in the Netherlands we stopped collecting plastic, metals separately. This because there are better machines now that reach higher accuracy levels.
                                                      • zppln 2 years ago
                                                        I'd be happy just to have the moving of wet clothes from the washing machine into the tumbler automated. But not even this science can provide. :(
                                                        • corobo 2 years ago
                                                          I've had a combo washer dryer ever since moving out of my parents place lol

                                                          You gotta also buy the things science provides!

                                                          • LBJsPNS 2 years ago
                                                            I prefer the Unix approach - single function appliances that do a single job well.
                                                        • taneq 2 years ago
                                                          That’s because folding laundry is way, way harder.

                                                          I think it’ll be a long time before automated laundry folding is commercially viable at household scale (factory scale is another matter) simply because as other, easier, more lucrative activities are automated, the cost of “unskilled” human labour will be driven down faster than the cost of the equipment required to fold laundry.

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                                                            • taikahessu 2 years ago
                                                              You put AI to create some shit for you. Sell it. Hire a cleaner, lawnmover whatever. Or better yet, make AI to sell that shit and let it hire those people.

                                                              We’re not very far from some Satoshi putting it all together.

                                                              • whatshisface 2 years ago
                                                                If you can just tell the AI to create something, so can all of your customers, and they know exactly what they want from it.
                                                              • graphe 2 years ago
                                                                There’s not much profit in hardware. Mechanics and robotics are expensive.
                                                                • throwaway6734 2 years ago
                                                                  One interesting idea I saw somewhere on the internet was that we might see a return to more mechanical/hands on professions while low level white collar jobs get destroyed in the same way old factory jobs did.
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                                                                          • jmmcd 2 years ago
                                                                            From what I see, most people are just calling it "posting" now. So, time to identify another reason not to use Mastodon!
                                                                            • listenallyall 2 years ago
                                                                              To avoid the smugness of Mastodon advocates
                                                                            • zzzeek 2 years ago
                                                                              Well. You will be missed
                                                                              • uptown 2 years ago
                                                                                Tootles!
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                                                                              • KaoruAoiShiho 2 years ago
                                                                                I'm a bunny user, I'm kinda confused where is the documentation for using this? There's no link from this blog post.

                                                                                Edit: Found it, really should've been in the blog post...

                                                                                https://docs.bunny.net/docs/bunny-ai-image-generation

                                                                                • etaioinshrdlu 2 years ago
                                                                                  The commoditization of image generation has been shockingly fast. Now our CDN provider provides low-cost generation.
                                                                                  • forrestthewoods 2 years ago
                                                                                    Kind of. They all run Stable Diffusion because they released fully open source.

                                                                                    There’s still competitive advantage to owning, training, and gatekeeping access to models. MidJourney and DallE are both superior to Stable Diffusion along many axes.

                                                                                    Monetizing models is tricky because it’s so cheap to run locally but so expensive in the cloud. Except if you release your model such that it can run locally all advantage is lost.

                                                                                    I wonder if there is a way to split compute such that only the last 10% runs in the cloud?

                                                                                    • fshbbdssbbgdd 2 years ago
                                                                                      Why is it expensive to run in the cloud and cheap to run on a device?

                                                                                      1. Commodity hardware can do the inference on a single instance (must be true if a user device can do it).

                                                                                      2. It’s apparently possible to run a video game streaming service for $10/month/user.

                                                                                      3. So users should be able to generate unlimited images (one at a time) for $10/month?

                                                                                      Maybe the answer is the DallE/Midjourney models running in the cloud are super inefficient and Stable Diffusion is better. So the services will need to care about optimizing to get that kind of performance. But it’s not inherently expensive because they run it on the cloud.

                                                                                      • forrestthewoods 2 years ago
                                                                                        I wouldn’t assume those $10/mo gaming services are profitable.

                                                                                        It’s not that running in the cloud is more expensive. It’s that people already have a $2000 laptop or maybe even $1600 RTX 4090. If I’ve got that I don’t want to pay $20/month to 6 different AI services.

                                                                                        Sam Altman said ChatGPT costs like 2 cents per message. I’m sure they can get that way down. Their bills are astronomical. But the data they’re collecting is more valuable than the money they’re spending.

                                                                                        Stable Diffusion isn’t super fast. It takes 30 to 60 GPU seconds. There’s minimal consumer advantage to running in the cloud. Id run them all locally if I could.

                                                                                        • rileyphone 2 years ago
                                                                                          Nvidia’s business model makes it inherently more expensive to run on the cloud.
                                                                                          • holoduke 2 years ago
                                                                                            Gpus are expensive. You need at least 10 gpus to quickly render stable diffusion images. If you want to run a service you need more of them. Thousands per month easily reached.
                                                                                          • TuringNYC 2 years ago
                                                                                            >> Monetizing models is tricky because it’s so cheap to run locally but so expensive in the cloud.

                                                                                            Can you expand on this a bit? The way i'm thinking, that is only the case if you need low-latency. And in that case, it seems you just need to charge to cover compute.

                                                                                            We're running Stable Diffusion on an eks cluster and it evens out the load across calls and prevents over-resourcing.

                                                                                            If latency isnt an issue, it can be run on non-gpu machines. If you're looking for someone under $300 or $400/mo, then I agree it may be an issue.

                                                                                            On that note, I havent checked whether there are lambda/fargate style options which provide GPU power, to achieve consumption based pricing tied to usage, but that might be a route. Can anyone speak to this?

                                                                                            • slig 2 years ago
                                                                                              >On that note, I havent checked whether there are lambda/fargate style options which provide GPU power, to achieve consumption based pricing tied to usage, but that might be a route. Can anyone speak to this?

                                                                                              https://lambdalabs.com/service/gpu-cloud

                                                                                              • mnahkies 2 years ago
                                                                                                It's not quite lambda, but GKE auto pilot supports GPU workloads, so it could be a relatively easy way to do this.

                                                                                                You could have a rest service sticking incoming requests into a queue, and then a processor deployment picking off the queue using the GPU resource requests / spot instances. You'd probably also want something to be scaling the processor deployment replicas based on the queue depth and your budget.

                                                                                                I haven't compared the pricing to EKS so unsure if it would really be better financially, but it would avoid having to manage scaling up/down GPU nodes explicitly.

                                                                                                https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/autop...

                                                                                                • nl 2 years ago
                                                                                                  https://www.banana.dev/ have been working on the Lambda-style thing. I haven't tried it but looks very impressive.
                                                                                                  • forrestthewoods 2 years ago
                                                                                                    > If you're looking for someone under $300 or $400/mo, then I agree it may be an issue.

                                                                                                    Yeah. These models don’t need special resources to run. As a consumer I would prefer to buy a 4090 and then run everything locally. I don’t want to pay $10 or $20 monthly subs to a half dozen different AI services. All professional software turning into subscription services sucks.

                                                                                                    Midjourney charges $30/mo for unlimited “relax” time and 15 hours of fast GPU time. That’s not too bad. But multiply that by 6 services and a 4090 pays for itself in a few months.

                                                                                              • xwowsersx 2 years ago
                                                                                                Is this not available as a standalone tool?

                                                                                                > To enable Bunny AI, simply enable the feature under the Bunny AI panel and start generating!

                                                                                                Where is this exactly?

                                                                                                Also, are the other AI image generation tools that can be used now at low prices? I've tried some of the free ones, but they have two hour wait times sometimes!

                                                                                              • Havoc 2 years ago
                                                                                                Thinking the next logical step - chatgpt at edge - could be even more useful.

                                                                                                Though I guess that still has the underlying limitation of compute shortage so could take a while

                                                                                                • m00x 2 years ago
                                                                                                  There's a huge difference between diffusion models that were built to be run on commodity hardware and the huge autoregressive models like GPT. You can't even run GPT3 on the cloud without some specialized interconnect.
                                                                                                  • Shindi 2 years ago
                                                                                                    How do you know this? Not doubting you just curious. I've always been curious about requirements or size of GPT3 because Eluether's GPT-X 20B takes like 40GB VRAM to run and I think it is the closest analogue to GPT-3
                                                                                                    • birdyrooster 2 years ago
                                                                                                      Wait you have to peer directly with their network or something?
                                                                                                      • coolspot 2 years ago
                                                                                                        No, you can’t build a cluster of GPUs to run GPT without special very fast interconnect like InfiniBand. Stable Diffusion can run on a single GPU, like 3090 .
                                                                                                    • ilaksh 2 years ago
                                                                                                      OpenAI has very similar models available in their API.
                                                                                                    • seqizz 2 years ago
                                                                                                      Looks like it is generating on-the-fly. No? Second request for each generation (unique number) takes no time.

                                                                                                        for a in `seq 1000 2000`; do wget "https://bunnynet-avatars.b-cdn.net/.ai/img/dalle-256/avatar/email-${a}/rabbit.jpg?width=128&hiEbunny=is_this_secure_though" ; done
                                                                                                      • jchw 2 years ago
                                                                                                        Almost assuredly, it is generating on the fly, then caching.
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                                                                                                        • magic_hamster 2 years ago
                                                                                                          I can't understand the need for this kind of thing as there are so many options for using Stable Diffusion for very cheap (or free) and of course Dall E has its own UI. What's the point of using a service like this (besides getting free compute while they are launching)? Do we really need another service aggregator?
                                                                                                          • gingerlime 2 years ago
                                                                                                            Feels a bit gimmicky to me, but maybe I’m missing some need in the market.

                                                                                                            I wonder about auto-generated captchas perhaps? or are these going to be easy to reverse?

                                                                                                            On a side note: I’d love to switch from Cloudflare to bunny, but it’s missing a WAF. We were promised it from bunny for a long while, but didn’t see it yet. Personally I would imagine it being a more core feature for a CDN than AI bunnies on the edge, but I guess I’m old and boring.

                                                                                                            • vlunkr 2 years ago
                                                                                                              It's clever how they've distilled the api down to something so simple, but yeah, as a paid service it's pretty lame.
                                                                                                            • ilaksh 2 years ago
                                                                                                              Dumb question.. can you only generate images of bunnies?
                                                                                                            • EmilStenstrom 2 years ago
                                                                                                              While this is cool, using an MD5 of users’ email addresses is not cool. Given a large rainbow table you could likely find the identity of lots of users and tie them to specific comments where they thought they were anonymous… not th intention when enabling funny avatars…
                                                                                                              • 88stacks 2 years ago
                                                                                                                I think a standard model is not very useful. We are doing similar but with your own custom model as an api https://88stacks.com I do like their real-time api though and we are moving towards that as well. It just costs a lot more to do in real-time.
                                                                                                              • jonplackett 2 years ago
                                                                                                                Any one know the pricing? When you go to their pricing page it only has info about standard CDN stuff.
                                                                                                                • nbgoodall 2 years ago
                                                                                                                  Towards the end:

                                                                                                                  > Bunny AI is currently available free of charge during the experimental preview release and is enabled for every bunny.net user. We want to invite everyone to have a look and play around, and share the results with us. Bunny AI is released as an experimental feature, and we would love to hear your feedback.

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                                                                                                                  • 12907835202 2 years ago
                                                                                                                    This seems like a massive waste of resources. If the image is generated by AI it's clearly not offering very much to the reader but they still have to load it and scroll past it to get to the actual content.
                                                                                                                    • ParadisoShlee 2 years ago
                                                                                                                      Dear Bunny, you've been delaying the S3 storage bucket for 3 years. Please don't waste time on this trash.
                                                                                                                      • Thorrez 2 years ago
                                                                                                                        Disappointing that the comment section on that page doesn't use these images for the profile pictures of commenters.
                                                                                                                        • swamp40 2 years ago
                                                                                                                          10,000 Unique Bunny NFT's in 3, 2, 1...
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                                                                                                                          • chillfox 2 years ago
                                                                                                                            Unique default avatars is a pretty cool use case for AI image generation.
                                                                                                                            • jmmcd 2 years ago
                                                                                                                              Not a good title!

                                                                                                                              > Bunny AI, an experimental multi-model image generation engine

                                                                                                                              do they mean "multi-model" or "multi-modal"?

                                                                                                                              • probablynish 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                They talk about how they use two models in the article, DALL-E and Stable Diffusion. So it seems like multi-model is correct. Why is it a bad title if there's no typo?
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                                                                                                                                      • weird-eye-issue 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                        Completely. Different. Use. Cases.
                                                                                                                                        • tomr75 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                          a design AI would be mint

                                                                                                                                          kind of worrying for people who work in the space!

                                                                                                                                          • nbzso 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                            As I sad: UX is more important. We will focus on bringing better experience for the users. Managing thousands of boxes and combinations is not a design work goal. Solving a problem for the users is.
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                                                                                                                                          • adenozine 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                            What in the world…

                                                                                                                                            This is such a schizo comment. I feel sorry for you and your cousin. I hope it works out somehow in life

                                                                                                                                            • MinaMe 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                              Good evening, Who could help me unmask my hacker who is none other than my dear naughty cousin. Certainly very strong in his field but who does not digest that his nasty little cousin did not at all appreciate being raped from these 4 years and this for 10 years my silence allowed him to build his empire and I filed a complaint well after his ascent. A dismissal was pronounced and not an acquittal. No place = lack of evidence and witnesses, yet everyone is aware. For 14 years he has been spying on me, hacking my phones, computer, cameras, microphones even in my daughter's room, in the toilets, in short James Bond bathroom live. To see the police you need proof and he has a long arm finally this family full of success have very long arms, I am the ugly duckling me who dares not to accept submission. Finally it is a real hell that continues. So if anyone can help me?? He is known at least he was known under the pseudonym of kerim. He works at Expleo (Toulouse, Colomiers) His name is Abdelkrim Mimouni Do not hesitate to contact me if you too do not accept the unacceptable whatever the status, whatever the power, the number... Thank you very much, I do not don't know what to do anymore good evening "They thought of burying

                                                                                                                                              adenozine Unfortunately it is the reality that far exceeds the fiction. I may have expressed myself badly, it's happening to me. A waking nightmare is mind-boggling. I don't know what to do, I send an SOS. Sorry to bother you, while searching I came across this application, so lost for lost I launch this SOS

                                                                                                                                              • MinaMe 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                                Unfortunately it is the reality that far exceeds the fiction. I may have expressed myself badly, it's happening to me. A waking nightmare is mind-boggling. I don't know what to do, I send an SOS. Sorry to bother you, while searching I came across this application, so lost for lost I launch this SOS Unfortunately reality no schizo
                                                                                                                                            • metta2uall 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                              Please, lets not waste electricity & emit more CO2 for the sake of unnecessary eye-candy..
                                                                                                                                              • hyperdunc 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                                Yeah, beauty and fun aren't necessary. Maybe we should instead exist in a drab, brutalist world. That ought to decrease emissions a fair bit.
                                                                                                                                              • Beefin 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                                If you need a method of indexing and searching these pictures, give mixpeek a try: https://mixpeek.com/
                                                                                                                                                • ilrwbwrkhv 2 years ago
                                                                                                                                                  Fantastic. I use all of bunny's services across all of my companies and can vouch for the absolutely fantastic service they provide at the best cost. Use them blindly for all your needs.