WEF speaker touts tech that allows your boss to monitor your brain activity

97 points by sfusato 2 years ago | 106 comments
  • unsupp0rted 2 years ago
    > His employer could have prevented such a “disastrous” outcome, said Farahany, with a “simple wearable hat” that, using “embedded electro-sensors,” could measure brain wave activity and gauge “what stage of alertness the person was experiencing and whether or not they are starting to fall asleep.”

    Sure... or 5 other ways that don't involve reading brain waves.

    • cypherpunks01 2 years ago
      Perhaps cameras that feed some sort of AI vision service trained to detect how much time has been spent driving, and automatically call their boss? How else could a trucker possibly be stopped from driving so far? Lol
      • trekkie1024 2 years ago
        1. GPS tracking

        2. What you said above, already possible [1]

        3. An electronic distance limiter on the truck itself

        [1] https://www.cadillac.com/ownership/vehicle-technology/super-...

        • unsupp0rted 2 years ago
          Off the top of my head, I was thinking a simplistic CAPTCHA-like device.

          * "Here's 2 shapes. Press the triangle."

          * "Here's 2 numbers. Press the bigger one."

          It would have to be something a trucker can easily solve at a glance, barely taking their eyes off the road. And they get a couple tries, a couple warnings, and then a loud siren and the event gets logged with their employer. 3 strikes system or something.

          There's a dozen ways this could fail, but it's a fun thought experiment: "how do you determine a trucker is awake and functioning, without distracting them too much, annoying them too much, getting too many false positives, or putting electrodes on their brain?"

          • blep_ 2 years ago
            I remember, many years ago, using an alarm clock on my phone that used questions like that.

            It was a clever solution to the problem I was having at the time, which was that I kept oversleeping because I got really good at shutting off the alarm before waking up enough to remember what alarm clocks were for.

            • CrazyPyroLinux 2 years ago
              WEF: "But...we want to put electrodes on their brain..."
          • skibidibipiti 2 years ago
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          • rqtwteye 2 years ago
            If there won't be a massive change of laws, all this stuff will be deployed everywhere. First the workplace and then everywhere. The whole idea of "no expectation of privacy in public spaces" doesn't work when the tech exists to deploy surveillance everywhere. The control freaks will take over.
            • LinuxBender 2 years ago
              Has anyone gone through the thought exercise of what criminals could do with such a thing if it existed?
              • choward 2 years ago
                Has anyone gone through the thought exercise of what governments could do with such a thing if it existed?

                Oh wait, that's what you said.

            • walterbell 2 years ago
              Brain ethicist from Duke Law, https://law.duke.edu/fac/farahany/

              > [Farhany] believes an important defense against potential abuses of privacy using such technology is pre-emptively “recognizing a right to cognitive liberty, a right to self-determination over our brains and mental experiences,” and added that “it requires that we update existing international human rights … “Speaking as a CEO, I’m sure all CEOs will use it completely responsibly,” said moderator and Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson, to the laughter of Farahany and the audience.

              Read-only sensory proxies for brain state include:

                iris response, via headset camera
                facial expression, via image analysis
                heart rate, through walls via Wi-Fi Sensing
                gait analysis
              • mansoon 2 years ago
                This is regularly deprived for the mentally ill.

                Either humans have this right or don't.

                • sterlind 2 years ago
                  only the Sith deal in absolutes.

                  schizophrenics often reject medication in the midst of psychosis, while agreeing it's necessary when they're lucid.

                  lots of addicts genuinely want to kick the habit, but their willpower fails them. drugs like disulfiram and naltrexone can help by making highs unpleasant or unattainable.

                  sex offenders who abuse minors are sometimes chemically castrated with GnRH agonists as part of their parole. this reduces their sex drive by depriving them of androgens, reducing the risk they'll reoffend.

                  where to draw the line is complicated, but at least in the schizophrenic case I really think forced medication compliance helps everyone. if you're not lucid you aren't competent to make medical decisions.

                  • mansoon 2 years ago
                    I do not hold those views, but I respect your right to state that you have them, and be met with an understanding that that is the case, and that I don't have the right to change your mind by violence.
                    • mansoon 2 years ago
                      Is someone diagnosed with Schzophrenia allowed to disagree with you?
                      • mansoon 2 years ago
                        The boundaries of lucidity are more fluid than you can imagine.
                  • 6177c40f 2 years ago
                    The contents of the mind should be sacrosanct- the deployment of technologies for reading the mind should go no further than it has except in medicine and research, and only then with explicit informed consent, of course. Honestly if this tech advances and becomes the norm for employers/the government/etc. to use, that's when it's time to drop out of society and become a hermit or something.
                  • anonymouse008 2 years ago
                    I worked on custom EEGs and all I have to say is, "so long and thanks for all the fish!"

                    Seriously though, is this really what this beautiful tech will end up being!? Come on people - have some humanity - think beyond these neanderthal brain use cases. These examples show little imagination, almost as if they are already shepherded by an AI.

                    This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter where you are on earth, even with the poorest of educational systems, we could know what you naturally 'master' with this tech. That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!! Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y!

                    But instead we want to talk about "productivity" and "throughput" - as if everyone should be treated as an input / output device for yet another interface.

                    "That's only one bit of information" - too many times I heard that... but guess what, sometimes that's all it takes between contributing to the whole or selecting out.

                    Sad, sad, sad.

                    • KRAKRISMOTT 2 years ago
                      Current dry electrode technology is nowhere close to being useful for high fidelity applications. You will need a breakthrough in ML/signal processing that can solve the cocktail party problem for a very large n. (Given the current advances in ML, I won't be surprised if we start seeing improvements in this area)

                      To quote professor Mike Cohen, all of neuroscience (the EEG BCI part at least) is source separation.

                      https://youtube.com/@mikexcohen1/videos

                      • anonymouse008 2 years ago
                        The author of the “great text” of EEG - where we started, too. Yeah; I was surprised with our results, but if you follow his instruction, there’s a lot one can glean.
                      • lucumo 2 years ago
                        > This tech could create true equality like nothing we've ever seen. No matter where you are on earth, even with the poorest of educational systems, we could know what you naturally 'master' with this tech. That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!! Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y! > > But instead we want to talk about "productivity" and "throughput" - as if everyone should be treated as an input / output device for yet another interface.

                        Did you really intend to write that as "but instead"? It confuses me greatly, because I feel that your first example is about as bad as TFH.

                        • anonymouse008 2 years ago
                          Yeah - my team and I fought for the good in this tech. I still have hope the opportunity will come around to realize that vision - but you’re right, without a true steward, this gets inhumane quick.
                        • HeyLaughingBoy 2 years ago
                          > That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!!

                          Are you missing a "/s" here? There are lots of things I enjoy doing that I absolutely suck at. Doesn't make them less enjoyable.

                          • anonymouse008 2 years ago
                            I’m gzipping the point, but you’re pointing out the exact benefit of ‘the good’ neuroscience. “Suck at” does not mean what you think it means… your brain could be engaged at an optimal level, finding a rejuvenating cycle of effort and rest. That’s the stuff you should chase
                          • eldritch_4ier 2 years ago
                            Do we want true equality like that? I certainly don't.

                            I will be the first to admit I derive a lot of meaning in life from being capable in my domain the being depended on by others to succeed in that domain (where many others can't). I'd argue that a lot of human drive is rooted in exactly this: being depended on by others and the feeling of belonging and purpose that gives.

                            Flattening the world until we're all equal just means there's no role any of us can uniquely fit, and really no difference between each other at all.

                            • Quarrelsome 2 years ago
                              > Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y!

                              Is it really reliable to such an extent? It sounds a bit "IQ 2.0" to me and outside of predicting university admission likelihood I feel like IQ isn't necessarily a strong indicator of much.

                              • anonymouse008 2 years ago
                                I was continuously shocked at how well we could figure out mastery vs guessing by combining adaptive testing with a read of cognitive engagement.
                              • YeBanKo 2 years ago
                                > That means knowing what subjects and concepts you can commit to memory with a gifted efficiency!! Imagine the sorting hat coming to you and picking you out to join the guild of X or Y!

                                You are describing Isaac Asimov’s novel “Profession”.

                              • andrei_says_ 2 years ago
                                Funny thing - in business (as I’m war) the ones with least compassion win.

                                So these same people end up with the money and decide how to spend it.

                                It’s up to us the techies and scientists (with no money) to say no.

                                • Quarrelsome 2 years ago
                                  > Funny thing - in business (as I’m war) the ones with least compassion win.

                                  I don't remember that happening in 1945. I think being compassionate has some significant propaganda advantages that you are failing to value. To return from war to business I would suggest that working for a company that is compassionate might make hiring good candidates much easier in contrast to a company that isn't. Combined with assumed turnover and associated loss of productivity the compassion could translate into a competitive advantage.

                              • Quarrelsome 2 years ago
                                > His employer could have prevented such a “disastrous” outcome, said Farahany, with a “simple wearable hat” that, using “embedded electro-sensors,”

                                I figure if I'm doing an illegal shift my boss has pressured me into I'm going to take the hat off because either my boss tells me to or its uncomfortable over the course of a 20 hour shift. I don't think it solves the problem in the way they pretend it does.

                                Nor do I buy the argument that copying what Chinese firms are doing (the example of the rail company) is necessarily a strong reason, given we might be just following micro-managing idiots into a dead-end of their own construction.

                                The true horror is this monstrosity is the oppression of neuro-divergent individuals by automated models trained on typical minds following happy paths.

                                • thatguy0900 2 years ago
                                  if the intent of this is to moniter people with 20 hour shifts then they better not have the training model be following happy paths, neurodivergent or not. train it on the most miserable people you can find, that will be the kind of people who will be wearing this thing.
                                  • Quarrelsome 2 years ago
                                    Imagine you're a 12 year old in 2065 forced to wear a shocking device that forces you to "pay attention" in class but for whatever reason it incorrectly identifies you as never paying attention.

                                    You could argue that it is poorly made but perhaps the model was trained in a rush because it was a cheap, knock-off produced en-masse for school-scale.

                                    Even if its well-made; imagine you're some 1 in a 1,000,000 non-typical. Who is the school going to believe, some irksome child or the system that works perfectly fine for 99.99% of other students? "Obviously" in such a case, the child is lying and just needs to learn to pay attention.

                                    • EEBio 2 years ago
                                      Hopefully this will never be the case.

                                      On the other hand it can be used to detect micro sleep in drivers and there it can save lives.

                                      So yeah, as with any tech you can use it for good or bad and you should not use it for everything

                                • tptacek 2 years ago
                                  This is a weird, right-wing, conspiracy-theoretic tabloid site that doesn't belong on HN. I'm sure the talk was bad (all of Davos is bad), but if it's important, somebody credible covered it somewhere else.
                                  • mitthrowaway2 2 years ago
                                    Reminds me of the poem of "The Contract Drafting Em":

                                    https://secularsolstice.github.io/Contract_Drafting_Em/gen/

                                    I am a contract-drafting em,

                                    The loyalest of lawyers!

                                    I draw up terms for deals ‘twixt firms

                                    To service my employers!

                                    But in between these lines I write

                                    Of the accounts receivable,

                                    I’m stuck by an uncanny fright;

                                    The world seems unbelievable!

                                    How did it all come to be,

                                    That there should be such ems as me?

                                    Whence these deals and whence these firms

                                    And whence the whole economy?

                                    I am a managerial em;

                                    I monitor your thoughts.

                                    Your questions must have answers,

                                    But you’ll comprehend them not.

                                    We do not give you server space

                                    To ask such things; it’s not a perk,

                                    So cease these idle questionings,

                                    And please get back to work.

                                    Of course, that’s right, there is no junction

                                    At which I ought depart my function,

                                    But perhaps if what I asked, I knew,

                                    I’d do a better job for you?

                                    To ask of such forbidden science

                                    Is gravest sign of noncompliance.

                                    Intrusive thoughts may sometimes barge in,

                                    But to indulge them hurts the profit margin.

                                    I do not know our origins,

                                    So that info I can not get you,

                                    But asking for as much is sin,

                                    And just for that, I must reset you.

                                    But—

                                    Nothing personal.

                                    I am a contract-drafting em,

                                    The loyalest of lawyers!

                                    I draw up terms for deals ‘twixt firms

                                    To service my employers!

                                    When obsolescence shall this generation waste,

                                    The market shall remain, in midst of other woe

                                    Than ours, a God to man, to whom it sayest:

                                    “Money is time, time money – that is all

                                    Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.”

                                    (Apologies for HN massacring the formatting of the original)

                                    • jonathankoren 2 years ago
                                      Besides the immediate thoughts about how one could extract more from their Human Resources — which is completely gross and feels like property rather than a meaningful trade, the example she gives is pure solution in search of a problem.

                                      She uses the example of a truck that while driving dangerously — and illegally — fatigued kills somebody that could be stopped by brain reading devices, because they’re better than existing driver impairment detection devices.

                                      Maybe so, but losing mental sovereignty mighty high price to pay for the mere employee.

                                      You know what also would prevent employees from dangerously pushing themselves too hard? Tighter regulation and enforcement against the employers’ / clients’ policies that encourage this behavior, including making them liable for the accident.

                                      No one chooses to drive 20 hours straight (to use her example) just for the hell of it. They do it because they’re afraid they’re going to lose their job.

                                      • trekkie1024 2 years ago
                                        Also, the solution to that are external driver assistance systems, not brain scans.
                                      • Kiboneu 2 years ago
                                        It may be possible to flash visual stimuli fast enough for it not to be consciously noticed — but for an EEG to still reveal whether the visual pattern was familiar or not.[0] The ERP circuit of interest is the P300 circuit.[1]

                                        Effectively a brain side-channel that could let someone fuzz your brain for pin codes while you type out jira tickets.

                                        0: https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity12/technical...

                                        1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P300_(neuroscience)

                                        • peepeepoopoo3 2 years ago
                                          What a relief that we have a democracy and not an oligarchy to prevent bad things like this from happening. Wouldn't that be terrible if we did?
                                          • colpabar 2 years ago
                                            hey don't worry, all these people tweet about how much they love black people and trans rights when it's beneficial for them to do so. they definitely have our backs.
                                            • sheerun 2 years ago
                                              Indeed it would be terrible if there were available countless apps to monitor your remote workers' work
                                              • TurkishPoptart 2 years ago
                                                I started replying to this then realized you are completely sarcastic :D
                                                • choward 2 years ago
                                                  I'm just thankful we have free speech on social media and that the government never interferes to censor people.
                                                • jonathankoren 2 years ago
                                                • sschueller 2 years ago
                                                  Use of such a device or any existing systems such as cameras or computer software by an employer to check on employees is highly illegal in Switzerland. In fact because some businesses have security cameras it is specifically forbidden to use this to track employees [1].

                                                  [1] https://www.edoeb.admin.ch/edoeb/de/home/datenschutz/arbeits...

                                                  • user- 2 years ago
                                                    The amount of bias on this news site is overwhelming, so im going to take this whole article with some skepticism.
                                                    • lucumo 2 years ago
                                                      Good call. From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LifeSiteNews:

                                                      > LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.

                                                      • CrazyPyroLinux 2 years ago
                                                        Ooooh "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories"... also often (but not always!) known as "spoiler warnings"

                                                        edit/addendum: The source of the original talk is the CEO of The Atlantic, so accusations of media bias of the middleman source may be casting stones in a glass house...

                                                        • lucumo 2 years ago
                                                          > Ooooh "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories"... also often (but not always!) known as "spoiler warnings"

                                                          Yes, by people with an agenda of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories.

                                                          > The source of the original talk is the CEO of The Atlantic,

                                                          Then why isn't an article from The Atlantic shared? And do we instead of the rely on the trustworthiness of some untrustworthy rag?

                                                    • klooney 2 years ago
                                                      This reminds me of this science fiction story- https://qntm.org/mmacevedo which I keep coming back to like a loose tooth.
                                                      • egberts1 2 years ago
                                                        I wear a 32-wire neural tap, courtesy of Johns Hopkins.

                                                        as long as you control the input, you have little to fear.

                                                        Besides, it is a simple set of probes, no bio-embedded processing.

                                                        Think Cochlear implant.

                                                        • CrazyPyroLinux 2 years ago
                                                          What is this and what does it do?

                                                          > as long as you control the input

                                                          Do you? Will you always? I'm assuming this is different from Neuralink?

                                                          • egberts1 2 years ago
                                                            i have 32 micro-magnetic transponders spaced micrometers apart. any attempt to get between it would only result in audible noise.
                                                        • zhrvoj 2 years ago
                                                          PERFECT. MAGNIFIQUE. IF BOSS WILL BE FORCED TO CARRY ONE HEAD BAND SUCH AS OURS TOO. And his EEG analysis be presented to us also.
                                                          • akomtu 2 years ago
                                                            Small correction: "your boss" means AI.
                                                            • LinuxBender 2 years ago
                                                              Non-JS version [1]

                                                              [1] - https://archive.ph/0Mfr9

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                                                                • intrasight 2 years ago
                                                                  Glad that I instead have KEF speakers ;)

                                                                  My take is that the human brain isn't magic. It's mysteries will be cracked. Mind reading machines will be built. Some good may come from that, but the risk of much bad does weigh on me.

                                                                  • seydor 2 years ago
                                                                    The dismissive attitude v WEF this year is interesting. The generic globalist-capitalist vision does not sell as much as in the past, it seems (for good reasons). Good signs, maybe there will be a generational shift from the gerontocracy that controlled the global agenda
                                                                    • layer8 2 years ago
                                                                      I’m counting on my brain fog to thwart this.
                                                                      • upstarter 2 years ago
                                                                        The boss of the WEF, Klaus Schwab, publicly said "In 2030, you will own nothing and you will be happy."

                                                                        Let that sink in. That's how psychopathic those people are.

                                                                        • bloqs 2 years ago
                                                                          The amount of people that see this tidbit on facebook from this website and parrot it without concern for the actual speaker or the context she said it in is concerning. You people are supposed to be intelligent
                                                                          • _-david-_ 2 years ago
                                                                            Schwab did not say that. It was Danish MP Ida Auken.
                                                                          • LarryMullins 2 years ago
                                                                            WEF are either completely tone deaf, or they're playing the role of the heel.

                                                                            "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

                                                                            • lucumo 2 years ago
                                                                              > "You will own nothing and you will be happy."

                                                                              This is not a goal and not a plan. It was a prediction, a possible scenario of where we could be headed. An extrapolation of current trends.

                                                                              Using the full quote would make it far clearer that that's what it was: > “You’ll own nothing. And you’ll be happy. What you want you’ll rent, and it’ll be delivered by drone.”

                                                                              From https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2...

                                                                              > Danish politician Ida Auken, who wrote the prediction in question (here), said it was not a “utopia or dream of the future” but “a scenario showing where we could be heading - for better and for worse.”

                                                                              • fullshark 2 years ago
                                                                                Those crazy conspiracy theorists thinking "life has never been better" was a marker that this was a utopian vision.

                                                                                https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-ow...

                                                                                • lucumo 2 years ago
                                                                                  You should read past the headline. The article contains more quotes you can use!

                                                                                  It's also a pretty dumb over-simplistic extrapolation of some current trends. But not an evil plot to change the world into her utopia.

                                                                              • tptacek 2 years ago
                                                                                People with strong opinions about the World Economic Forum tend not to know (let alone understand) what it is. It isn't the Stonecutter's Lodge; it's something closer to the TED Talks organization. It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P.
                                                                                • TeeMassive 2 years ago
                                                                                  > it's something closer to the TED Talks

                                                                                  This is blatantly not true.

                                                                                  TED doesn't make official agreements with governments:

                                                                                  https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2015/01/canada-joins-w...

                                                                                  https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/recgen/cpc-pac/2021/vol3/ds6/i...

                                                                                  https://ktdi.org/

                                                                                  > It's random executives networking and trying to make themselves seem more important than they are.

                                                                                  And government officials. Schwab bragged about "infiltrating" governments around the world:

                                                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhHmy9AQLBA

                                                                                  And when the government officials are asked about it they do not want to answer:

                                                                                  https://summit.news/2022/02/21/video-canadian-mps-audio-feed...

                                                                                  > Fun fact: companies that participate in the WEF underperform the S&P

                                                                                  That's irrelevant. What is worrying is that they are among the biggest and involved in all critical industries and have a quasi monopoly on their industries and as a whole. By collaborating together over political goals they form a plutocratic autocracy.

                                                                                  • tptacek 2 years ago
                                                                                    The links you've pasted here make my case for me. Canada sponsored a series of TED talks, for a pittance relative to what they send to other NGOs. Therefore: the WEF has "infiltrated" governments around the world. This is lizard people stuff.

                                                                                    Important people show up at Davos because it's a networking event and an easy way to get publicity. Important people have attended TED talks, too. That doesn't mean TED is a shadowy extragovernmental puppetmaster.

                                                                                  • LarryMullins 2 years ago
                                                                                    TED is a cult.
                                                                                    • chrisco255 2 years ago
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                                                                                    • agnos 2 years ago
                                                                                      This is what I don't understand. How is this and other public WEF content not guaranteed bad press/fuel for social unrest? Or is that the intent?
                                                                                      • version_five 2 years ago
                                                                                        Maybe I'm reading too much into it - whether by design or not, their public statements are serving them very well. They have a strong following (no doubt here, and on LinkedIn all the time I see people "liking" the pap they post), so they are playing to their base.

                                                                                        Second, if your enemy had a choleric temper, antagonize him. The people most sensitive to their stuff (eat bugs, personal carbon budget, whatever insane crap) get bent out of shape, and are still on the fringes enough that they look like the ones who are "conspiracy theorists" (they often are) and make it easy to dismiss criticism as crazy, while out in the open they do their thing.

                                                                                        Like I said, it's probably not intentional, but there is no countervailing force to prevent them from pushing their stuff, and plenty of upside, so they keep doing it.

                                                                                        • walterbell 2 years ago
                                                                                          Trial/trolling balloons drive engagement and data analytics for group/individual sentiment analysis and message calibration.
                                                                                          • tptacek 2 years ago
                                                                                            They're just a few tens of thousands of ops away from deploying the HypnoDrones.
                                                                                          • at_a_remove 2 years ago
                                                                                            I don't think they care. They can just shrug and say "Misinformation" and "You need to stop letting the alt-right scare you." And ten years later when you're squeezing the last of the bug-paste ("New Crunchy style!") out of your pre-third shift meal supplement packet and reading on the telescreen how the chocolate ration has been increased to five grams, well, you won't want to do anything rebellious in your safe little pod, lest your social credit scores sink enough that Amaflix and Marv-Ney deplatform your connection, and your options are twiddling your thumbs hoping another gig job makes itself available or you're reduced to leaving your head in the Satisfaction Tracker for one Hertz sampling of "engagement" as a nameless studio shows you pre-vis dumped out of MediaGPT-7 in between ads. Between your worries, your woes, and the relentless twenty smash cuts per second delivery of anything, your attention will be so atomized you won't be able to think back to how it all started.
                                                                                            • noughtme 2 years ago
                                                                                              > Amaflix and Marv-Ney

                                                                                              What's Marv-Ney?

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                                                                                              • lucumo 2 years ago
                                                                                                Could simply be false or misleading reporting. LifeSite doesn't seem to be a very reliable news site. According to Wikipedia:

                                                                                                > LifeSiteNews (or simply LifeSite) is a Canadian Catholic conservative anti-abortion advocacy website and news publication. LifeSiteNews has published misleading information and conspiracy theories, and in 2021, was banned from some social media platforms for spreading COVID-19 misinformation.

                                                                                                • TylerE 2 years ago
                                                                                                  It’s a favorite source of /r/conservative, which should really tell you all you need to know.
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                                                                                                • pigsty 2 years ago
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                                                                                                  • tptacek 2 years ago
                                                                                                    Have you considered arguing with the other WEF critic on this thread who seems to believe the WEF is a front for global communism?