Tesla’s latest Full Self-Driving Beta tried to kill me last night

4 points by bcks 1 year ago | 7 comments
  • foobarbazetc 1 year ago
    Waymo is basically locked to 25mph here in SF.

    Letting a Telsa thing self drive at over 100kph is actually kind of wild.

    • dangus 1 year ago
      BMW, Mercedes, GM, and other makes all make vehicles that drive and change lanes automatically on the highway.

      The FSD Beta software is also different than the standard autopilot lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control system. It’s labeled as a Beta for a reason. Drivers must opt-in to the beta and agree to be alert and responsive. Tesla won’t even offer the Beta to you unless you exhibit safe driving behaviors.

      Whether or not beta software should be on the roads at all is still a valid question. I think Tesla would make the argument that no software will be sufficiently refined until it is tested by a huge variation of real world conditions. Opponents of Tesla will argue that this software isn’t tested enough to release to even a small section of the general public.

      • joezydeco 1 year ago
        I object on the principle that I didn't agree to be a part of Tesla's beta program, yet I have to assume that risk every time I get on the road near one. And god help you if you're a pedestrian or cyclist.
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        • foobarbazetc 1 year ago
          Yeah, I’m talking about FSD driving at speeds that mean certain death, not your standard cruise control+.

          Do I trust Tesla to write software that works to a degree where I would entrust it with my life? No.

          The team that builds the VW (and other euro makers) software also worked on Airbus autopilot.

          Got to nerd out with one of the (retired) lead engineers there and the only thing he’d get into with full autonomous driving was a Waymo.

          • Zigurd 1 year ago
            TBF VW Group royally fucked up their EV software development and it's a big part of why their current models get criticised in reviews, and there are interesting user complaints, like doors opening while in motion. VW might eventually get this right, but I suspect Google's investment in car infotainment and robotaxi tech will pay off as car makers realize software is hard and expensive.

            That said, Elon's nearly decade long hypefest should be thoroughly discredited by now: Camera-only AV looks to be a dead end and it is exemplifying why "the best part is no part" does not trump "premature optimization kills."

            • dangus 1 year ago
              Who evaluates the quality of automaker engineers?

              “I heard some engineers used to work at Airbus” doesn’t mean anything.

        • Zigurd 1 year ago
          He's holding it wrong