That's correct assuming you have to choose between buying two equally priced cars, one electric and one combustion.

But the choice here may be between buying a new electric and a used combustion that costs 1/4 of the price.

Or between buying a new electric and keeping the existing car longer.

Pretty sure that over the next 10 years at least, the latter two are the cheaper options.

you joke now (because oil is dirt dirt cheap right now) but just wait a few decades. I've listened to some of the most knowledgable people in the oil industry (Art Berman and others on Nate Hagens podcast) discuss Oil. And it looks like Hubbard's curve at least on a worldwide basis is true and oil supply is only going to go down in the long term. The peak is much much closer than most people expect. The world is so much more dependent on oil than it realizes and the impacts will be far more profound than most economists currently realize.

> To me more surprising is that Fiat 500e was higher in the ranking, despite costing more and having smaller battery.

The buy Price tag is not the only thing that people are looking when buying a car.

People do care about maintenance and after sell service. In France, you can be pretty sure that anywhere you are, you are almost sure to have a Stellantis garage within 25km of your home. For MG... probably within 150km.

People care (maybe too much?) about that. This is especially true for an EV under warranty that your random neighbour garage will refuse to touch because he miss the know-how on it.

Another painful reminder of how Californias are being screwed on electricity prices, with double the US national average, which itself is higher than 110€/MWh.

That's the wholesale price paid to producers. Consumers are paying around 23c/kWh, however that (as with most European countries) has been subsided by the government - the real price should be higher.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-raise-regulated-...

Converting between the electrical energy and the heat energy intrinsic to gas is the wrong way to do that calculation. You need to compare efficiency vs efficiency to get a proper price comparison, as the heat energy of gasoline is much higher than the actual energy used to move a vehicle. Most is wasted.

A decently efficient EV is about 250Wh/mi (it’s closer to 220, but 250 makes math easy), so 105 EU of power can travel approximately 4000mi.

By comparison a decently efficient ICE (in Europe) gets about 5L/100km, roughly. So, to travel 6430km (4k miles) you’d need about 320L of fuel. At 1.75EU/L that would cost 560 EU.

It’s a very substantial difference, assuming your pricing is correct on fuel and energy cost.

Shouldn't the comparison use distance as the denominator?

I believe that the rates you are BenoitP have quoted are the wholesale rates. They are the rates that a grid operator might pay to buy electricity from a producer or from another grid operator.

Consumers rates will be at least about twice that.

A good heuristic to tell you are looking at a rate is that is not a consumer rate is that if it is quoted in units that are per MWh it is probably not a consumer rate. Consumer rates are almost always quoted per kWh.

Looks like it was 15-50 in 2020 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1267546/france-monthly-w...

What happened in 8/2021 that caused a huge spike?

This is when I thought I was paying 1/3 that then see the rates increased to 1/2 and I have new fees that appeared or increased.

USA average shows $0.23/kWh

https://www.energysage.com/local-data/electricity-cost/