Why is Cockroach adding READ COMMITTED? Is using a lower level of isolation better for performance or just reduces the amount of serialization errors and retries that need to be done?

Can this improvement also be implemented in Postgresql, removing the need for EvalPlanQual?

Maybe as an option with a new syntax (UPDATE .. WHERE .. RETRYING) or something like this.

Read committed is explicitly asking for hard mode. If you want a simple life stick with Serializable as always. It took years before people found anomalies in Repeatable Read in Postgres. This stuff is hard even for world class researchers.

Even more generally, distributed systems can find simpler solutions to things like "raise the throughput ceiling", and "handle disk failure", and "handle power failure" than single-box systems. This is for the simple reason that they have more options: beyond the constraints of a box, resource allocation is more flexible, failures less correlated, etc. That allows modern distributed databases to simply avoid some of the super hard problems that prior databases had to solve. Efficiency is still important, but the thing to optimize is mean system efficiency, not the peak performance of a handful of super hot boxes.

There's also the fact that decades of DB research have brought techniques and approaches that beat old ones, and retrofitting existing systems with them can be hard (e.g. see the efforts to remove some of the sharp edges of PG's MVCC behavior and how hard they've turned out to be).

I wondered this too and found this in the docs[0]:

  Transactions at all isolation levels are subject to lock contention, where a transaction attempts to lock a row that is already locked by a write or
  locking read. In such cases, the later transaction is blocked until the earlier transaction commits or rolls back, thus releasing its lock on the row.
  Lock contention that produces a deadlock between two transactions will result in a transaction abort and a 40001 error
  (ABORT_REASON_ABORTED_RECORD_FOUND or ABORT_REASON_PUSHER_ABORTED) returned to the client.

So looks like you still get a good old 40001 error just like with SERIALIZABLE isolation.

[0] - https://www.cockroachlabs.com/docs/stable/read-committed#rea...

It's a good question. For simple UPDATEs, CockroachDB always executes in a deterministic, serial order and so it's likely the rows will be locked in the same order by any competing updates. (This can be confirmed by looking at the query plans.) Complex UPDATEs using joins and subqueries will need explicit ORDER BY to always lock in the same order.

If an UPDATE has to retry halfway through, locks are held across the retry to help the system make progress. But as you point out, this could cause lock acquisition to happen in an unexpected order if new rows qualify during a retry. So far we haven't run into this, but we might need to provide an option for an UPDATE to drop locks on retry if deadlock turns into a bigger problem than livelock. It depends on the workload.

The timing of this example is tricky because the two update statements execute concurrently (which is only possible under read committed isolation; under serializable isolation it's much more like what you're describing).

Here's a full timeline in PG (U1 for first update, U2 for second update):

0. U1 begins executing, establishes read snapshot, starts pg_sleep(5).

1. U2 runs to completion.

2. U1 wakes up after 5 sec, scans `player` using snapshot from step 0.

3. U1 filters `team = Gophers`, gets 4, 5, 6.

4. U1 locks 4, 5, 6.

5. U1 performs EvalQualPlan: re-scans latest version of those locked rows, which sees U2's write to 4 but not to 3.

6. U1 performs EvalQualPlan: re-filters those locked rows using latest version, gets 5, 6.

7. U1 writes new versions.

CRDB is easier to reason about: after U1 wakes up from the sleep, it sees that it conflicts with U2 and simply retries the entire statement.

> If `UPDATE player SET level = 'AA' WHERE team = 'Gophers';` is executed before the player swap, then why should "Stonebreaker" be upgraded to "AA"? I'd be pretty mad at my database if I sent those 2 queries in sequence and my DB decided to re-order them.

It’s easy to miss but in the swap query the levels also get swapped. Because — and it’s harder to miss but easy to skip over — given what constraint 2 says the level is actually a team level, not a player level.

So in a seqcst view, either the team’s players get upgraded to AA then the players’ levels get swapped during the exchange, or the players get exchanged then the team’s players get upgraded.

In both sequences you end up with Stonebaker as an AA gopher and Lamport as an A dolphin.

My guess is orgs that have a real need for a distributed SQL database (which are rare in the space of orgs) will make their choices based on requirements analysis rather than naming.

So probably if you would be turned off enough by the name not to use the software, you don't actually need a distributed SQL database and are not the target customer.

I think a lot of people miss the "Cockroaches survive everything" implication.

It's meant to imply indestructability, not creepy yucky beastliness.

Obviously that goes over the heads of many people initially but at least it can then be explained!

I don't wonder. It would be more widely considered, at the very least, judging by interactions I've had with a few people.

You know how "master", "slave", "blacklist", etc. cause bad feelings in a lot of people? So do terms like "roach", "cock", "cockroach", "maggot", etc.

They could have named this waterbear or adamantium or something.

the worst name in existence

Oh, thank you!

PG only uses EvalPlanQual under read committed isolation. Under repeatable read the first update fails with a "could not serialize" error, just as it does under serializable.

Prior to building read committed, CRDB only supported intents as a form of replicated locks. Intents are provisional values written by active transactions which are resolved once the writing transaction commits or aborts.

As part of building read committed, we introduced other forms of replicated locks. In particular, replicated shared and exclusive locks (SELECT FOR UPDATE statements acquire exclusive locks). Locks acquired by read committed transactions are always replicated.

The unit of replication in CockroachDB is called a range, and every range is its own raft group. Every range has a reserved portion of its keyspace where locks can be stored. This is known as the replicated lock table. Incorporating exclusive/shared locks in the replicated lock table involved adding a notion of lock strength to all locks that were stored (as previously they were all assumed to be intents).

Look, every single time this database is mentioned here, this exact comment comes up. Every. Time. For years, and years, and years. And yet, true to its name, the database and the team building it are still around.

At some point we've got to realize the CRDB team is comfortable with the name, it's not going to change, and all comments lambasting it are just farts in the wind.

I'm relatively ambivalent on the name issue specifically, but I do think this has been hashed over ad nauseum to the point of making for boring reading. This line from the HN guidelines:

> Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead.

stands out as particularly relevant.

I think the idea is that after a nuclear war, the only two things left are your data and some cockroaches.

I scoffed at first, but I guess cockroach sounds to some what "maggot" sounds like to me.

Like the other person said, it's related to the survivability of cockroaches. One can hope for a management tier competent enough to evaluate an internal database on the merits.

Sometimes, I like to open The GIMP so I can take the logo for the Coq proof assistant, export it and commit it into the HEAD of my Git repository.

I think the weird names are fine, it's the management that needs fixing.

You name tools to your management? They won’t know what anything is anyway? The word database (some sort of Excel!) is usually an issue already. Why would you go into that much detail; just don’t?

Did Mongo get slagged in their early days because of the unflattering Blazing Saddles movie reference?

Call it whatever you want. Engineers should be able to select their tools on merit, not marketing.

Do you use Git? Does management know what it is?

Or imagine a name like that for a band or car for the masses? Gawfah and hurmph indeed.

Have you tried?

Really? is your management stupid?

Generally the best way to surmount a hard problem is to solve a different one.