Scientists Just Discovered Quantum Signals Inside Life Itself

4 points by 8bitsrule 3 months ago | 4 comments
  • 8bitsrule 3 months ago
    • rhet0rica 3 months ago
      This is not the first quantum-mechanical biological phenomenon to be suggested: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/quantum-science-and-tec...

      ...however the author's claims definitely do not follow in any meaningful way from the actual experiment. A few cytoskeletal proteins did something non-classical, so we have to re-evaluate the place of life in the universe? What?

      I believe this is another steaming pile from the cult of physicists who are convinced that their intelligence is so supreme and special that it must be empowered by a god of the gaps[1]—more specifically a god of the quantum gaps. No such luck, friend.

      Remember the story about AI-designed chips[2] — what Stephen Wolfram identifies as "lumps of irreducible computation" in his recent article about the Game of Life[3]. As Wolfram notes, it's really obvious when a new device in Life is discovered by brute-force search, because it has no separable components.

      Biology is such a search algorithm; it moves in (almost) entirely random ways, and it sometimes stumbles upon truly incredible things. On a few occasions it actually stumbled onto organization as a viable technique for innovation, as encapsulation makes it easier to iterate on specific components without messing up the whole system. But on the whole, the mess remains a mess, and sometimes that means exploiting the rules—something virtually all learning algorithms are also prone to do if there are flaws in the rules of the game, e.g. [4].

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

      [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43152407

      [3] https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2025/03/what-can-we-lear...

      [4] https://www.sociable.co/technology/ai-breaks-simulated-laws-...

      • 8bitsrule 2 months ago
        >A few cytoskeletal proteins did something non-classical, so we have to re-evaluate the place of life in the universe? What?

        Yeah, I thought the find was interesting, but not nearly as significant as the article bloviated. Obvious that quantum bits have a role in everything in the universe, which likely includes the brain, huh? T'were worth a look.

      • nonrandomstring 3 months ago
        Roger Penrose was right.