We’ll be ending web hosting for your apps on Glitch

213 points by js4ever 1 month ago | 139 comments
  • skrebbel 1 month ago
    I just can't get over the fact that this starts with

    > This is a big change, but it’s not an “Our Incredible Journey” post

    and then never, nowhere, at all, makes clear that the post means "We're shutting down Glitch". At least the "incredible journey" posts are clear about that, somehow this here is even worse. It suggests that they're just shutting some small part of it down but actually if I read it right (and the comments here) it actually means they're shutting the whole platform down but might someday want to try and do something else with the name and the userbase.

    I simply don't understand why people write like this. What's the benefit of trying to fool your userbase into thinking that maybe not that much is changing when in fact everything is? Who wins when, the day after they pull the last plug, lots of people email them in panic, because they hadn't realized that "important changes" means "we'll delete everything"?

    • healsdata 1 month ago
      Yeah, one of their former eng managers said the same

      > The post carefully avoids calling this an “Our Incredible Journey” moment, but removing project hosting and user profiles is the end of Glitch as a platform. What’s left is essentially a redirect service with some backlinks (hosted on the Fastly Edge Compute Platform™, naturally). You can’t spin the removal of the core product as anything other than what it is: a shutdown.

      https://keith.is/blog/the-end-of-glitch-even-though-they-say...

      • JeremyNT 1 month ago
        Yeah I'm with you here.

        It's a bit ironic coming from Anil, who has quite a following on social media due to "calling it like it is" when big tech or VC culture does something rotten or self-serving.

        The doublespeak and evasiveness in this "incredible journey" post is exactly the sort of thing he'd typically criticize!

        • refulgentis 1 month ago
          I realize now I had internalized a very powerful lesson about being human, when I grew confused about how he talked about Glitch, versus how he talked about other companies.

          Very strange situation.

        • popalchemist 1 month ago
          They write like this because they can't own what they're doing.
          • refulgentis 1 month ago
            Ultimately the CEO jobs involving 10 figures of investments are selected before the company is built, for some intersection of self marketability, ability to market others...and most importantly, being willing to do anything to go with the flow.
          • jeeyoungk 1 month ago
            Yes, they tried to avoid the cliche by pointing at the cliche, but they weren't able to refute Our Incredible Journey.

            Though, this was a real product, with almost 10 years of operation; very few products last this long, and the product wasn't immediately shuttered after the acquisition, so it is unfair to categorize them into the same OIJ bucket.

          • dustingetz 1 month ago
            $30M Series A by Tiger in 2018, acq by Fastly in 2022 for undisclosed price, shutdown in 2025. Fastly is a CDN and edge network. Glitch was used by Fastly for “internal training” and “internal sales tools” (kinda?), a far cry from “fullstack application platform in the edge”.

            https://blog.glitch.com/post/my-last-day-at-fastly/

            https://www.fastly.com/blog/fastly-announces-acquisition-of-...

            • reverendsteveii 1 month ago
              is it me or does it feel like the american dream is quickly becoming "work super hard developing a new product that meets people's needs, then get bought out and shut down by one of the supergiant orgs that owns everything"?
              • dragonwriter 1 month ago
                Big money exit without concern for what happens next has always been the VC-powered startup dream.

                You are probably spending too much time on a discussion forum sponsored by a startup accelerator if you think that defines the American dream, though.

                • dabockster 1 month ago
                  You’d have to convince someone to say no to a multimillion dollar VC check, bootstrap themselves financially (and often on “bread and water” levels of available money for their project), and be willing to potentially run or be at least somewhat responsible for whatever they build for potentially decades.

                  An entity would have to really want to do all that for the “American Dream” to happen.

                  • dughnut 1 month ago
                    This is why civil design software has not meaningfully improved in 20 years and is indistinguishable from its state 10 years ago. We’re living in a Dark Age. We just don’t realize it.
                    • 392 1 month ago
                      Civil design software?
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                      • rchaud 1 month ago
                        The "American Dream" is really just a less socialist sounding way of describing a post-WWII economic structure where unionized labour (manufacturing, ports, trades and teachers) had bargaining power to hold corporations and elected officials to account. That and a housing sector where government-backed mortgages hadn't yet been turned into a casino by Wall Street.
                        • dymk 1 month ago
                          No, that's the Silicon Valley-specific "Sigma Grindset" Dream
                          • DrillShopper 1 month ago
                            Welcome to the New Gilded Age

                            It's going to get worse.

                        • Jean-Philipe 1 month ago
                          I'm a bit confused...if web hosting shuts down, what stays? Doesn't this mean glitch just shuts down altogether?
                          • karel-3d 1 month ago
                            https://me.dm/@anildash/114553094584569213

                            > We’re thinking through what’s next. I’m really interested in how we can look at all the other amazing creation and app experiences out there (I really love stuff like Val Town and Fly.io and Deno and Netlify, etc.) and bring all those together for easily making and remixing new apps. Will take a bit to figure that out.

                            • madeofpalk 1 month ago
                              They're shutting Gitch down. Anil's just trying to be high-minded and optimistic without saying anything specific. I'll be surprised if they do anything new with Glitch.

                              This absolutely is a "Our Incredible Journey" story, but just with a good migration off-ramp.

                              • jkaplowitz 1 month ago
                                Well, it has a better migration off-ramp than most “Our Incredible Journey” stories, but they don’t even promise to keep redirects working beyond the end of next year. Fastly can absolutely afford to do better than that.
                              • diggan 1 month ago
                                I'm similarly lost as GP, and even reading this, I feel like I'm missing something.

                                If HN said they're disabling new submissions and comments, that'd effectively mean they're closing the site, and would probably say that outright.

                                But Glitch aren't saying they are shutting down, but they're removing the feature that I thought made Glitch a thing. So nothing is left, yet they continue? Is this a 180 pivot or? Are there other features that will still be usable?

                                • eitland 1 month ago
                                  It could go the Piczo route—a website builder aimed at kids and teens, not for polished blogs or ecommerce, but more for one-off, personal and playful friend-to-friend sites.
                            • dmarcos 1 month ago
                              Glitch has been a key piece of the A-Frame community (open source project I maintain) for almost a decade. I'm super thankful to the team! So many people started programming and had first steps in game and 3d graphics development with Glitch.

                              It's sad to see it go. I was always somehow worried. They had an awesome and super generous free tier. You don’t even need to create an account! Unfortunately, it looks they couldn't make the numbers work.

                              • karol_ 1 month ago
                                As someone who has been using glitch.com because of A-Frame and was teaching students to also use them together I am really sad by the news. It was a great thing to see students who had no experience with programming to create a virtual spaces in under an hour and after few more lessons using A-Frame in a creative way that I wouldn't even thought off. I guess I would also like to thank you @dmarcos for keeping A-Frame alive. My especially fond memory of it was during Covid lockdowns when my friend reached out to me that he had students of Art University feeling pretty bummed because they weren't able to do a end of a year physical exhibit and if I had any ideas to do a simple site to show the works. What we went with instead was to create a virtual gallery that evolved also in to place where people could stream live performances through the internet and even had a premiere of a CD of a band done there (https://vimeo.com/428814586).
                                • dmarcos 1 month ago
                                  Thanks so much for sharing. Means a lot
                                • apitman 1 month ago
                                  Are there viable alternatives for your community? Anything that's just as good?
                                  • dmarcos 1 month ago
                                    Not that I'm aware of. I like glitch because the dev experience is the same as working on a local machine: a list of files, text editor, viewer. Anything you learn on glitch transfers directly to local development.

                                    Codepen, jsfiddle abstract away too much with the UI and different panels. You're coding their way.

                                    • apitman 1 month ago
                                      Have you tried Val Town?
                                • troupo 1 month ago
                                  To people praising this communication: they've given everyone just 6 weeks to move off the platform.

                                  To quote a response from their forum: https://support.glitch.com/t/discussion-thread-project-hosti...

                                  --- start quote ---

                                  I’m not a fan of those overly sweet, corporate-style messages that try to sugarcoat the truth: Glitch was simply too good to last, and you’re losing money...

                                  That said, my only real complaint is this: if you knew the situation wasn’t financially sustainable, you could have at least announced it a year in advance—not overnight.

                                  --- end quote ---

                                  • weiliddat 1 month ago
                                    Sad, one of the first of its kind. Created a bunch of one-off tools for friends and colleagues on glitch, but could see why it didn't really take off. For me I switched to other platforms like codesandbox, replit because the editor UX wasn't great for a long time. I get wanting the simplicity angle but having poor hints/autocomplete/etc is a hard sell for writing code.
                                    • wilg 1 month ago
                                      I love the brass of putting "Our Incredible Journey" posts on blast right up top and then writing a post that even less clearly explains if they are shutting down entirely, why they are doing so, or what is going on.
                                      • Kiro 1 month ago
                                        I don't really agree with people saying this is good communication. What will happen with Glitch?
                                        • mattbee 1 month ago
                                          Yes! It's exactly what it says it's not, an Incredible Journey post, from Anil, who is a laser-sharp writer.

                                          I kept reading because I assumed they were going to - idk open source it or allow you to host Glitch apps elsewhere - but nope, it's just a straight shutdown announcement. What have I got wrong?

                                          I'd assume there is some obfuscation required by owners or whatever pending a change of ownership, something like that?

                                          Anyhow, RIP, if the internet has taught me anything it's that we can't have nice things for more than about 10 years.

                                        • TheNewsIsHere 1 month ago
                                          They’re shutting down.

                                          This is one of those classic examples of awful communication dressed up as some kind of “good news everyone!” treatise on a founders personal feelings while being clear as molasses about reality.

                                        • vorador 1 month ago
                                          Is this the end of fog creek? I remember they had shut down most of their services by the time their rebranded to glitch.

                                          I wonder if anything is left of the company besides Joel's blog posts.

                                          • kbrosnan 1 month ago
                                            Trello sold to Atlassian. Stack Exchange and Stack Overflow sold to Prosus FogBugz sort of lives on at https://ignitetech.ai/softwarelibrary/fogbugz but it looks like one of those companies that buys software solutions and retains the minimum staffing to keep lights on.
                                            • skeeter2020 1 month ago
                                              Glitch isn't FC either, but to answer your question: is there anything left?

                                              Yes, giant piles of money!

                                              • madeofpalk 1 month ago
                                                Fog Creek Software was renamed to Glitch, and they offloaded FC.
                                            • DannyPage 1 month ago
                                              I really enjoyed using Glitch as it allowed me to quickly publish and iterate on various experiments or try out new libraries like Datasette or HTMX.

                                              I am curious what Glitch will look like after July. If they aren’t hosting apps, will they still be hosting code and letting it deploy elsewhere? It says it’s not a full shutdown, but it doesn’t appear to say what will be left to do on Glitch after that date.

                                              • drewda 1 month ago
                                                Glitch was acquired by Fastly a few years ago, so perhaps the user-facing brand will continue on for a while on top of some Fastly hosted services...
                                              • philipwhiuk 1 month ago
                                                So... it totally is an Our Incredible Journey thing.

                                                They got bought, Fastly doesn't want it, they're killing it.

                                                • steivan 1 month ago
                                                  I've been a long-time Glitch user and am now looking for good alternative platforms. My primary use case involves online coding with a Node.js backend using Express and some React apps. If anyone has recommendations, I'd greatly appreciate it.
                                                  • qudat 1 month ago
                                                    Me and a buddy built https://pico.sh to make it easy for developers to prototype and share their projects. In particular we have a static hosting service (https://pgs.sh) and a tunnel service (https://tuns.sh) that should cover most apps in the prototype phase.
                                                    • mvexel 1 month ago
                                                      Thank you for building the pico services. I use pgs for hosting my simple static website, and prose to host my blog, and it’s just such a wonderful experience.

                                                      Also it’s been a while since I mailed a check to pay for anything, let alone an online service!

                                                    • raybb 1 month ago
                                                      It's not nearly the same experience, but I'd argue a bit nicer of one, I'd recommend giving coolify a shot https://coolify.io/

                                                      You have to bring your own server to selfhost but it's dead dead easy.

                                                      If you have a nodejs app you can basically just click "new project from github", select the repo, and click deploy. Then it'll be there on your domain (or a free one) and auto redeploy any time you push to master.

                                                      • steivan 1 month ago
                                                        Thanks for the Coolify recommendation! After exploring several alternatives following Glitch's closure, I took your advice and set up Coolify on a freshly bought Raspberry Pi. It's been great! I've now got 4 projects running smoothly, and the deployment process is straightforward and exactly what I needed as a replacement for Glitch.

                                                        Really appreciate the suggestion. Couldn't be happier with the setup!

                                                        • raybb 1 month ago
                                                          Glad it's working for you. If you run into any rough edges please do report on GitHub. They're quite responsive to feedback and releasing updates every week
                                                      • andrewmcwatters 1 month ago
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                                                        • ignoramous 1 month ago

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                                                          That's 2TB/mo. Pretty sweet deal for $10/yr.
                                                          • mschuster91 1 month ago
                                                            The problem is, having a server on the internet is painful because you have to be constantly on guard for patches - if not you'll get hacked sooner than later.
                                                            • barnabee 1 month ago
                                                              Debian with unattended-upgrades and a [weekly] scheduled restart has worked for me for a long time.
                                                              • AndrewStephens 1 month ago
                                                                You are getting some pushback but you are not wrong. I thought I was being pretty careful with my DO droplet but just last weekend discovered that it had been hacked and was consorting with mysterious IP addresses in Russia and Brazil.

                                                                This was on a box that was firewalled and ssh was locked down. It was running an older kernel - that was probably my downfall.

                                                                I immediately shut down and rebuilt the droplet with a more modern kernel. It wasn't too hard because my site is (mostly) static with a simple custom service but is very discouraging to find that somebody has damaged your home project just to (I assume) make a small amount of money.

                                                                • em-bee 1 month ago
                                                                  patches for what? ssh? the service i am running? the linux kernel, but only for remote exploitable issues, of which there have been how many?

                                                                  seriously, it's not that hard to keep a server uptodate

                                                                  • immibis 1 month ago
                                                                    This fear is way overblown - at least for the basic operating system. Web apps are much more risky. Sandbox them thoroughly.
                                                                    • andrewmcwatters 1 month ago
                                                                      What?
                                                                    • sabellito 1 month ago
                                                                      Wait what, 11 USD per YEAR? How.
                                                                      • h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 1 month ago
                                                                        https://lowendbox.com/

                                                                        Lowendbox has lots of cheap shared VPS providers. For small projects that's all you need.

                                                                        • PhilipRoman 1 month ago
                                                                          Run iostat -c 1 and keep an eye on %steal column. IME these cheap VPS cannot be used for anything where response time is a factor. It's fine for static content if you put cloudflare CDN in front of it.
                                                                          • v5o 1 month ago
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                                                                        • loumf 1 month ago
                                                                          I pair program JS-based games with my nephew remotely using the glitch editor. In the end, it’s just static files. Can anyone recommend another place to do that? What we needed from glitch was the collaborative editing and instant update.

                                                                          I could stand up a server if there’s some open-source glitch-like for just static HTML and JS.

                                                                          • akoboldfrying 1 month ago
                                                                            > In the end, it’s just static files.

                                                                            GitHub Pages?

                                                                            • loumf 1 month ago
                                                                              I really want the collaborative editor from glitch. The hosting part is easy.
                                                                            • immibis 1 month ago
                                                                              I've been thinking about offering some kind of independent free hosting for the last few months or so. It seems like there's some need for more free, unenshittified hosting services aimed at non-commercial projects (like Miraheze is for wikis), but I'm very concerned about the legal risks, being outside of the USA (not that it's any better in the USA right now but traditionally it was). Servers are plenty cheap now, but lawyers aren't.
                                                                            • weiliddat 1 month ago
                                                                              Is it more small temporary projects you need to make and throw away, or large projects you keep working on?
                                                                              • LordShredda 1 month ago
                                                                                I'd recommend, unfortunately, buying a cheap $200 netbook and running cloudflare tunnel on it. As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever
                                                                                • barnabee 1 month ago
                                                                                  My vote for doing this is to get a second hand Lenovo/HP/Dell mini pc.

                                                                                  They're cheap (thanks to corporate upgrade cycles and the sheer number of "obsolete" models that are out there on eBay et al.), quiet, reliable, low power consumption, and generally pretty capable for the money.

                                                                                  • lxgr 1 month ago
                                                                                    > As long as you're relying on other people's computers for hosting you'll keep looking forever

                                                                                    > running cloudflare tunnel

                                                                                    There's some irony here.

                                                                                    • CharlesW 1 month ago
                                                                                      The Cloudflare dependency is for networking, not hosting. It would be very impressive to see a self-hosted service available over the internet without introducing a 3rd-party dependency or two.
                                                                                      • LordShredda 1 month ago
                                                                                        I'm only suggesting it because calling my ISP and asking for a static IP + an open port is a hassle. It's only a way to forward ports
                                                                                      • andrewmcwatters 1 month ago
                                                                                        That's nearly 20 years of lowendbox provider annual payments for what this guy is asking for.
                                                                                      • ignoramous 1 month ago
                                                                                        Workloads allowing, sub £50 SBCs like Banana Pi might do?
                                                                                    • 627467 1 month ago
                                                                                      Unrelated: but the whole glitch labour union that lasted a year before it dissolved itself is the first thing that comes to mind when I read about glitch.
                                                                                      • singron 1 month ago
                                                                                        > Glitch’s 14-person staff will all make the move over to Fastly. However the Glitch union, which made history last year when it signed the white collar tech world’s first collective bargaining agreement, won’t be coming with it.

                                                                                        https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/19/23126349/glitch-fastly-ac...

                                                                                        [This had substantially less coverage than forming the union, so I wanted to link it here]

                                                                                      • busymom0 1 month ago
                                                                                        As someone who had never heard of them, can someone explain what Glitch was used for?
                                                                                      • curiouser3 1 month ago
                                                                                        glitch.com brings back memories of the pre-slack era Glitch MMO. What an amazing time that was, really beautiful game made by talented people, pivoted the communication side into what we now know as Slack
                                                                                      • apitman 1 month ago
                                                                                        I listened to a great podcast recently with one of the co-creators of Glitch: https://www.localfirst.fm/8
                                                                                        • pketh 1 month ago
                                                                                          oh hi that's me!
                                                                                        • bfdm 1 month ago
                                                                                          This a real loss. I'll miss Glitch for rapid experimentation with UI and APIs together.
                                                                                          • biker142541 1 month ago
                                                                                            Just coming to say this is a great example of how communication should be done for such changes. So many companies get this wrong, but this is thoughtful and to the point. Glitch was a springboard for myself as well, so very bittersweet (and I guess I need to migrate really old stuff... but to their point, this is super easy now).
                                                                                            • pyb 1 month ago
                                                                                              I can't tell from the post if Glitch is shutting down or not.
                                                                                              • immibis 1 month ago
                                                                                                And that's how communication should be done. Uncertainty raises shareholder value. Somehow.
                                                                                                • pyb 1 month ago
                                                                                                  "On ne sort de l'ambigüité qu'à son détriment." a successful politician once said
                                                                                              • oblio 1 month ago
                                                                                                Does Glitch do anything else besides web hosting?

                                                                                                If it doesn't, in what world is this good communication?

                                                                                              • plesiv 1 month ago
                                                                                                We're building a similar product at https://gitlip.com

                                                                                                We would love to speak to any Glitch users about their particular use case. Please reach out to natalie [at] gitlip.com

                                                                                                • raymond_goo 1 month ago
                                                                                                  Very good first impression. Well done!
                                                                                                • LahanF 1 month ago
                                                                                                  Anyway, all I can say is thank you Anil and team, Glitch helped me learn web dev 7 years ago, and also teach others. It’s just very sad that it’s ending like this, sugarcoating much.
                                                                                                  • ggorlen 1 month ago
                                                                                                    • deafpolygon 1 month ago
                                                                                                      Weird.

                                                                                                      Both Mozilla and Glitch are doing something on July 8. Is there something significant about that day?

                                                                                                      "On July 8, 2025 Glitch project hosting and user profiles will be shut down."

                                                                                                      "We’ve made the difficult decision to shut down Pocket on July 8, 2025."

                                                                                                      • aspenmayer 1 month ago
                                                                                                        This was all I could find, but it actually may be related?

                                                                                                        https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-implements...

                                                                                                        > As explained in NSD’s Data Security Program Implementation and Enforcement Policy Through July 8, 2025, NSD will not prioritize civil enforcement actions against any person for violations of the Data Security Program that occur from April 8 through July 8, 2025, so long as the person is engaging in good faith efforts to comply with or come into compliance with the Data Security Program during that time. These efforts include engaging in compliance activities described in that policy, such as amending or renegotiating existing contracts, conducting internal reviews of data flows, deploying the CISA security requirements, and so on.

                                                                                                        > At the end of this 90-day period, individuals, and entities should be in full compliance with the DSP. This policy does not limit NSD’s lawful authority and discretion to pursue civil enforcement if entities and individuals did not engage in good faith efforts to comply with, or come into compliance with, the Data Security Program.

                                                                                                        • rafram 1 month ago
                                                                                                          > the Data Security Program establishes what are effectively export controls that prevent foreign adversaries, and those subject to their control, jurisdiction, ownership, and direction, from accessing U.S. government-related data and bulk genomic, geolocation, biometric, health, financial, and other sensitive personal data

                                                                                                          How do you think this could be related?

                                                                                                          • aspenmayer 1 month ago
                                                                                                            >> the Data Security Program establishes what are effectively export controls that prevent foreign adversaries, and those subject to their control, jurisdiction, ownership, and direction, from accessing U.S. government-related data and bulk genomic, geolocation, biometric, health, financial, and other sensitive personal data

                                                                                                            > How do you think this could be related?

                                                                                                            I didn't quote that when I said it may be related. I have some ideas of my own, but I just want to be clear so that I'm not being held to account for things I never said. How do you think it may be related?

                                                                                                            People in other threads on this post were saying that Glitch was being used by bad actors, and if Glitch was aware of this or reasonably should be, then they would likely have issues with complying with audits for compliance with the new order, I would think.

                                                                                                          • evan_ 1 month ago
                                                                                                            If it was a legal compliance thing they wouldn’t wait until the very last day to do it in case something went wrong
                                                                                                            • aspenmayer 1 month ago
                                                                                                              Or, to another reading, they are making every and all good faith effort to comply by ceasing business operations entirely. Why else is this announcement so strangely worded and timed?
                                                                                                          • altano 1 month ago
                                                                                                            I think it's pretty common for more than one thing to happen on most days.
                                                                                                            • skwashd 1 month ago
                                                                                                              It isn't unheard of for 2 companies to announce a shutdown on the same day. What is less common is for them to both announce it on the same day and last day isn't 4 weeks/30 days.

                                                                                                              When I saw this announcement after seeing pocket earlier, I immediately started to wonder if there was a regulatory change on 8 July.

                                                                                                        • duck 1 month ago
                                                                                                          Why is Glitch and Pocket both shutting down the same day and announcing today?

                                                                                                          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44063662

                                                                                                          • aspenmayer 1 month ago
                                                                                                            Coincidence or not, this seems like it could be related.

                                                                                                            https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-implements...

                                                                                                            > As explained in NSD’s Data Security Program Implementation and Enforcement Policy Through July 8, 2025, NSD will not prioritize civil enforcement actions against any person for violations of the Data Security Program that occur from April 8 through July 8, 2025, so long as the person is engaging in good faith efforts to comply with or come into compliance with the Data Security Program during that time. These efforts include engaging in compliance activities described in that policy, such as amending or renegotiating existing contracts, conducting internal reviews of data flows, deploying the CISA security requirements, and so on.

                                                                                                            > At the end of this 90-day period, individuals, and entities should be in full compliance with the DSP. This policy does not limit NSD’s lawful authority and discretion to pursue civil enforcement if entities and individuals did not engage in good faith efforts to comply with, or come into compliance with, the Data Security Program.

                                                                                                            • Atreiden 1 month ago
                                                                                                              The same July 8th deadline here doesn't feel like a coincidence. But the provisions of that executive order wouldn't apply here unless they have been quietly selling user data. Do we have any evidence of this?
                                                                                                              • aspenmayer 1 month ago
                                                                                                                The provisions will apply to Glitch parent company Fastly, to my reading, and so would apply to subsidiary Glitch. Same logic applies to Pocket and parent company Mozilla.
                                                                                                            • pabs3 1 month ago
                                                                                                              Ubuntu Launchpad mailing lists shutdown got announced today too.

                                                                                                              https://blog.launchpad.net/general/sunsetting-launchpads-mai...

                                                                                                              Lots more shutdowns in the coming months:

                                                                                                              https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch

                                                                                                              • rafram 1 month ago
                                                                                                                This is... quite a list. Doesn't seem like people are really holding to the "notable or with user-generated content" rule. For instance:

                                                                                                                > 2025-07-01: Vrijeschool Waldorf elementary school will close, due to lack of schoolchildren.

                                                                                                                OK.

                                                                                                              • add-sub-mul-div 1 month ago
                                                                                                                Birthday Paradox
                                                                                                                • 42lux 1 month ago
                                                                                                                  Someone is looking for coin and doesn't find it.
                                                                                                                  • sureIy 1 month ago
                                                                                                                    You may be surprised to find out how many more things are happening today! It's definitely a conspiracy.
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                                                                                                                    • brulard 1 month ago
                                                                                                                      Sad. Do you guys know about a good alternative?
                                                                                                                    • neuroelectron 1 month ago
                                                                                                                      It's not realistic to provide a secure hosting infrastructure unless you're AWS-level.
                                                                                                                      • stuart_real 1 month ago
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                                                                                                                        • daveguy 1 month ago
                                                                                                                          This is excellent communication and respect for their users. Applause for Glitch. Especially allowing users to retrieve resources for a full 6 months after the closure.

                                                                                                                          If you appreciate this level of communication and respect, avoid Digital Ocean at all cost. They will fail to send you emails for a few weeks and then delete your resources permanently with no recourse. They are the literal opposite of Glitch. Avoid Digital Ocean.

                                                                                                                          I would recommend Glitch remove Digital Ocean from their list of alternatives.