HeidiSQL Available Also for Linux

169 points by Daril 1 month ago | 49 comments
  • Daril 1 month ago
    HeidiSQL is free software for people who work with databases, and aims to be intuitive to use. "Heidi" lets you connect to a variety of databases, like MariaDB, MySQL, Microsoft SQL, PostgreSQL, SQLite, Interbase and Firebird.

    Since some days it is finally available in a native Linux version. The code has been ported from Delphi to FreePascal / Lazarus.

    • igitur 1 month ago
      Long time user of HeidiSQL here. I respect the author a lot. He's been tirelessly working on this project for many years, mostly alone. Of course, that's due to the closed nature of Delphi.

      It's great news that this is now available for Linux, but the better news for me is that I can now build it on Lazarus / FreePascal. Even if it doesn't support all the features (eg MSSQL), at least I can now contribute fixes for some UI issues that have been bothering me.

      I can successfully build the FreePascal version on Windows and it runs... fine. Feels a little less snappy than the Delphi version and there are some UI padding issues. But it's a massive step in the right direction.

      If you can, please support this project, either financially or through code. contributions. IHMO what is dearly needed is for the different SQL dialects to be abstracted out properly. It's currently done in a bit of a crude way (no disrespect to the author) and it will require a big refactoring to get it right, but will open doors to more dialects.

      • Daril 1 month ago
        Very good news that the Freepascal version compiles and works correctly also on Windows. As you said, Delphi was a huge barrier to prevent other developers to contribute, but if we can use Lazarus, Heidi can receive a lot of help not only for Linux version but also for Windows one. Probably, thanks to Freepascal / Lazarus, it can be ported easily also to Mac OS now.
        • badsectoracula 1 month ago
          > easily

          Depending on how OS-independent it is, it might just be a matter of opening the project file and selecting Run -> Build (yes, the fact that Build is under Run is something that always bothered me, but it has been like that for 22+ years now). However the resulting app will be very "win-like" and when i was making macOS builds using Lazarus back when i cared about macOS i always had a "Macize" function i called at startup (ifdef'd for mac builds) that did things like replace the Ctrl modifier shortcuts with Command in menus (you can enumerate the menus, no need to do that by hand), move the About command to the apple menu, etc. There are also some other things that you may feel like doing.

          TBH one thing that i wish was possible with Lazarus (at the time, now i don't care much :-P) was to be able to define different "layouts" per widgetset in a way that allowed you to use, say, a 'default' layout for Windows and Linux but a modified layout for macOS. Technically it is possible to design a form and then have another form inherit from it and apply modifications there, but it feels kinda awkward to use for different layouts (it is mainly meant for creating forms that you want to reuse but still have modifications - and it can be clunky in how it decides when to ignore changes in the base form or not - i do not use visual form inheritance, but i do use frames to design reusable controls visually and i often have to edit the source code of form files that use frames to remove overrides after saving the form so that changes to the frame are reflected in all forms that use it - this makes me want to add a readonly property to frames at some point :-P).

          • sakesun 1 month ago
            These days Delphi has community license for non-commercial use
            • Daril 1 month ago
              Right, but having a unique codebase and one development tool for Linux, Windows and Macos (probably), would help a lot to reduce the effort to maintain the application.
            • actionfromafar 1 month ago
              Since Linux version works, I wonder if it could work on Mac, too?
          • moron4hire 1 month ago
            I'm curious if anyone here has any experience with DbBeaver and HeidiSQL and can make a comparison. I've been using DbBeaver for a while, but the interface is... strange. Will probably try Heidi tomorrow.
            • cookiengineer 1 month ago
              I've been using HeidiSQL since around 2008(?) at my first job. What I like the most about Heidi is the UI for generating queries and editing left/right joins in a graphical manner. So you can use it to "prototype" your queries first, try them out, see the results, and then copy/paste them into your code, which is a supernice experience, including for beginners that haven't had much experience with SQL databases and lack the "feeling" of how to decouple datasets into tables.

              I was trying out DBeaver a lot, actually, but a couple of things here and there didn't work as expected. Sometimes I had problems with batch selections that I couldn't reproduce so I was then most of the time switching back to HeidiSQL in my wine sandbox when it didn't work, out of frustration.

              To me it's really great to see Heidi getting revived into a community software again, I really missed the tool a lot since I've made the switch to Linux as my daily driver everywhere. Wine's double click seemless windows aren't really nice and sometimes really annoying.

              • 0points 1 month ago
                Yeah, DbBeaver is a slow behemoth while HeidiSQL is like 2 MB snappy lean and mean exe.

                Works great in Wine before this native version came about.

                • smackeyacky 1 month ago
                  When I switched to Linux full time, I had to ditch Heidi as they didn’t have a Linux version. I actually prefer dbeaver now, Heidi had some odd defaults (default collation especially) which need attention but you don’t realise it until too late. It also was a bit crashy here and there.

                  DBeaver has the worst name in history but it can do everything Heidi does and doesn’t fall over every 20 minutes. The buttons are all over the place and it’s harder to navigate than Heidi but it’s also standard on a few distros.

                  I’m glad it has some competition though. If you’re working with sql server Microsoft have really dropped the ball with SSMS and don’t talk to me about azure data studio it is a undergraduate project that got a C.

                  I was switching a lot between SQLite, pawl, Marian and sql server and dbeaver is excellent on all of them

                  • Aeolun 1 month ago
                    I feel like dbeaver works with all of them. It never feels like a pleasure to use, unlike Heidi, which actively feels like it makes working with databases nicer.
                    • ChocolateGod 1 month ago
                      I've found Dbeaver struggles with large tables or databases with a lot of tables, often going out of memory unless I click the GC button every 10 seconds.

                      Meanwhile Heidi is fine.

                      • ipdashc 1 month ago
                        > DBeaver has the worst name in history

                        Hey man. You take that back.

                        • quercusa 1 month ago
                          GIMP would like a word...
                      • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1 month ago
                        I've used both; DBeaver for personal stuff, Heidi at work. Heidi has a much more intuitive interface, IMHO
                        • letters90 1 month ago
                          With DBeaver I was able to use tnsnames.ora to use a few tricks to connect to an oracle db

                          It required certain host/user/cid combination to pass the whitelist.

                          • hello_computer 1 month ago
                            For me, DbBeaver is jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Seems to handle every database known to mankind, but not a fantastic user experience. While HeidiSQL is a work of art for MySQL / MariaDB, but not much else. I use & appreciate both in different ways.
                          • atmanactive 1 month ago
                            Congrats on this. IMHO HeidiSQL is the best desktop SQL tool out there. Keep up the good work!
                            • redditor98654 1 month ago
                              If you have the license for it, it is hard to beat Datagrip from Jetbrains. Support for just about any database and also integrated support for AI/Copilot making it much easier to write exploratory queries.
                              • schaum 1 month ago
                                I used Datagrip like 10 years ago and it was amazing, back then I used some pre-release evaluation thingy, loved it, was only working with mysql though.

                                last year i looked at it again, in a project where mongodb is used, it did not perform so well, sure the features where there, but still mongodb is document orientated so i had to come up with workarounds and so ... yeah back to cli unfortunately

                                but for any relational database, I'd rather use datagrip!

                                • osener 1 month ago
                                  For simpler use-cases I've used both https://dataflare.app/ and https://tableplus.com/ with success. They are much quicker and lighter to start-up, browse some tables and run some queries.

                                  Free versions are generous enough for daily use as well. For example for TablePlus "The free trial is limited to 2 opened tabs, 2 opened windows, 2 advanced filters (filters are not available on the free TablePlus Windows) at a time."

                                  • cies 1 month ago
                                    DBeaver is free, quite full featured (no AI) and FLOSS.
                                    • rsyring 1 month ago
                                      But has a very complex and busy UI that, for whatever reason, makes it difficult/tiring for me to use.

                                      Very emblematic of it's Java GUI roots.

                                    • eknkc 1 month ago
                                      I love TablePlus. I basically use it for everything at this point even though I have a JetBrains all prod license. Never liked DataGrip.
                                    • wiether 1 month ago
                                      I suppose it has more advanced features than IntelliJ?

                                      Because when I switched to MacOS I had to find a replacement for HeidiSQL and, to my surprise, I was able to do everything I wanted to directly from IntelliJ, which was already my main IDE.

                                      https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/database-tool-window.htm...

                                      • redditor98654 1 month ago
                                        I use the dedicated app but IntelliJ ultimate bundles datagrip into the ide too.
                                    • sandreas 1 month ago
                                      Thanks for Posting. I love to see Pascal Cross Platform Apps are possible.

                                      How does this compare with DbGate (https://github.com/dbgate/dbgate)?

                                      • deergomoo 1 month ago
                                        Heidi was the default option on our work machines a few years ago and it’s one of the buggiest pieces of software I’ve ever used.

                                        Does it still lock up the entire UI if a query takes longer than five seconds to return results? Does it still pop up exception dialogs every ten minutes when it’s been open for longer than a few hours?

                                        • creamyhorror 1 month ago
                                          HeidiSQL has its quirks and occasional rough edges, but it's certainly simpler and more straightforward to use than DBeaver, the other common free SQL client that is sometimes recommended.

                                          I prefer Heidi where the DB setup allows it, and use DBeaver as a backup.

                                          • cies 1 month ago
                                            Using DBeaver and its also not without problems. Lots of popup dialogs that we cannot stop. But ti does not constantly crash or lock up.
                                            • orthecreedence 1 month ago
                                              This is my exact experience with DBeaver. Absolutely cannot stop all the frustrating popups. Finally got fed up and started using vim+dadbod and while the experience is a bit less batteries-included, I was mostly just using DBeaver to run raw SQL anyway, and have been on vim for over a decade so that's an option for me. Now my SQL queries live in per-project versioned files instead of some eclipse project folder somewhere and I can edit them with all the power of vim which speeds up my workflows.

                                              But nobody's going to do this without being a huge vim nerd, so I recognize it's not a general alternative.

                                          • spapas82 1 month ago
                                            Heidi is the best gui for mysql/mariadb. It's really great and I don't change it with anything when i need to work on mysql servers.

                                            Unfortunately it's not that good on postgres or ms sql server. Feels more buggy and slow for these databases but I'm not sure if it's Heidi or the db drivers.

                                            I'm also one of the people that used heidi on Linux with wine (along with notepad++) so a native version is more than welcome!

                                            • rd07 1 month ago
                                              I have wanted to try HeidiSQL before, but the lack of Linux version stopped me. Now, that it releases a Linux version, I think it is time to try it. Currently, I am using DbGate (daily) and DBeaver (occasionally). Feature-wise, DBeaver is better than DbGate, but it is slower than DbGate. Now let's see if Heidi is better than those two.
                                              • sakesun 1 month ago
                                                HeidiSQL, CudaText, Double Commander -- these native Pascal Apps still give the best user experience for me after decades.
                                              • rorylaitila 1 month ago
                                                I like how snappy and easy HeidiSQL is, I still use it when I need to manually twiddle some bit. But it's buggy and I don't write any SQL in it as I've lost enough code mid writing. DBeaver is my daily driver now.
                                                • mappu 1 month ago
                                                  Heidi is the best, this is really wonderful. I had been using MeowSQL as an imitation client which was fine, but having the real HeidiSQL again is such a nice feeling.

                                                  The deb package here didn't run for me on Debian 12 nor under distrobox Ubuntu, i think the dependency list needs a little attention, but that can be easily solved.

                                                  • Shorel 1 month ago
                                                    This is one of those programs that are so good and feature-rich that, even though I use Linux full time, I installed Wine to use the Windows version.

                                                    No other Linux program has anywhere near half the features of HeidiSQL. Saying this is great news is an understatement.

                                                    • dhfbfb 1 month ago
                                                      I only ever used DBeaver, because that seemed like the best free option for Linux to manage several SQL and NoSQL databases. What does Heidi offer that makes it better?
                                                    • mohas 1 month ago
                                                      Heidi is one of the apps that I like so much it locked me to using windows
                                                      • CliffyA 1 month ago
                                                        Great news!

                                                        I've missed Heidi after changing job and moving from MySQL to Mongo and then Linux many (many) years ago. Looking forward to see how it goes with Postgres and SQLite nowadays.

                                                        • devgoncalo 1 month ago
                                                          Great news. For me HeidiSQL has been one of my daily dev tools (since 2012?). I don't find it buggy, it's really fast and does the job really well.
                                                          • Grazester 1 month ago
                                                            I use Heidi SQL daily but then again if I had to do anything major I would return to MS SQL management studio. Heidi can be buggy at times.
                                                            • Zekio 1 month ago
                                                              HeidiSQL really brings me to back old school private servers for various games
                                                              • preezer 1 month ago
                                                                Very, very cool.
                                                                • racl101 1 month ago
                                                                  Pretty great program for Windows.
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