This is a perfect example of the problem with media reporting bullshit and then later correcting it. Everyone hears the bullshit, very few people hear the actual reason.

they detained him for his drug use

https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444

While your question is meaningful and well intentioned, let me point out that it may be inconsequential. The legality of an action is moot when the regime ignores and defies the entire basis of those laws - the constitution. It's like trying to evaluate yourself against a standard that is no longer followed.

Instead, evaluate yourself on the basis of your standing with the regime. If they dislike you for any reason including your skin color, they will find some sort of national security threat in your actions. Or they may punish you first and then claim the inability to correct it. On the other hand if they need you, they will completely ignore your actions, including even leaking of extremely sensitive information to unauthorized individuals.

IANAL

Flashing your headlights to warn others of cops or anything else is generally considered free speech. IIRC, this has been ruled on several times in pretty high courts.

So double check with a lawyer, but I'm like 99% confident there's nothing illegal about these types of Apps. I mean Waze has been doing it for years and even Google maps notifies you about speed traps.

If some new ruling makes it not free speech, we're in danger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing

Only if you knew by virtue of something like access to secret information (the things you'd have a security clearance to access).

If you see the police are gathered around your local 7-Eleven, you're absolutely free to post it.

If you know in advance that the police are going to be performing a raid on a meth house and you got that information by virtue of a security clearance (I assume they do have something of this sort like federal employees have, though I'm not sure the precise mechanisms) then you'd be violating the policies around that access. This could be illegal (just like a fed leaking secret or top secret information).

If you know in advance because the police have loose lips, but you are not personally under any kind of confidentiality policy, you're free to post it. So the loose lipped cops at the bars I used to frequent could have caused real problems for themselves.

Worth pointing out that the question of legality is besides the point if you are purposefully antagonizing the police state.

It’s not about legality. It’s about compliance.

If you become a target, they will arrest you and drop charges later. They will make you miss work and lose your job. They will set up surveillance on you to catch you doing anything else they want to continue harassment.

You don’t have to look hard to see reporting of officers using official databases to settle personal scores. 404 media just did a big expose on ALPR Flock DB abuses

Since Waze still has their speed trap reporting feature, I’m guessing it’s still legal.

Waze in NZ removed this feature after threats from police.

If you post to local social media groups about DUI checkpoints or mobile speed cameras you’ll be scolded by about 30% of people.

the whole idea behind a police state is that legality doesn't matter when it conflicts with "the state wants to employ machinery to keep you in line"

Absolutely not illegal.

That reinforces the idea of police state

Civil war, obviously.

So you're saying 2 previous presidents were more successful without using a campaign of threats and violence? And they didn't have to ignore court orders either? Makes you wonder...

Why is ICE slated to have a higher budget than the USMC if they're only removing ~40k people per month?

I think the key difference is the usage of face masks and plainclothes - as far as I can tell, from various different news articles - ICE agents weren't concealing their identities en masse using face masks under Biden and Obama.

Based on historical examples of secret police, plainclothes and face masks on Federal Agents by default could definitely make people think that we are "approaching a police state".

Masked agents. You have masked unidentified agents snatching people from the street, some of them targeted specifically for their wrongthink.

Note this is even orthogonal to the actual issue of immigration policy.

I don’t disagree with the characterization of ICE officers as racist thugs, but retaliatory violence is (1) still immoral and (2) self-defeating.

You aren’t realistically going to overpower them, so any violent resistance just helps them DARVO harder and excuse escalating their brutality. That’s why they’re always so eager to find or create violent one-offs within non-violent mass protests.

Please follow your convictions so you can be removed from the internet and placed in jail for a decade or two once you are processed through the legal system and found guilty of assaulting a police officer. The internet will be better off without your calls to violence.

They are officers and they are racist mercenaries.

This is not a new force, they have no new powers. They didn't need to hire new people willing to perform these actions nor train them how to do so.

If you haven't considered this before it should hit you like a hammer to the forehead: where are the resignations? Where are the "good cops" we keep hearing about, what are they doing?

The other federal, state, and local law enforcement officers that are assisting in these actions, where is their principled refusal to violate their oath to uphold the constitution? What statements are their powerful and normally very vocal unions making about all this?

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My wife was just naturalized as a US Citizen a year ago. You can bet she doesn't want to be anywhere near that mess. Her legal status provides her basically no protection from any ICE rookie with a chip on his shoulder.

Unlawful presence on US soil is a civil offense. It's literally the same class of offense as a parking ticket.

Are there any other civil offenses that you think should be dealt with using masked police and concentration camps?

I'll take immigrants in my neighborhood over ice agents in my neighborhood every day of the week.

The laws themselves are highly political, and ALWAYS on the side of capital.

If I steal $100 from the till at my employer, they call the cops and I'm arrested.

If my employer forges timecards to pay me $100 less, its a civil matter. If the state wants to, they might help, but likely not.

Police can kill people by simply saying "I thought I saw them pull a weapon", and the consequence is paid time off with an investigation.

Citizens killing in self-defense have regularly been tried for murder since they didn't do every possible thing before lethal response.

Congress themselves engage in massive amounts of insider trading, all completely 'legal' cause congress refuses to make laws that apply to everyone.

Yet someone in the public gets word of a secret or upcoming announcement, and the SEC comes down on you like a ton of bricks.

Face it - this country's real problem is that we are the 3rd world corrupt shithole we think of those 'other' lesser nations.

> And laws generally should be enforced.

what about the law where people get due process, right to an appeal, and adequate legal representation?

In for example Germany they have raids on workspaces to check for illegal workers as well. But the "police" (customs officer?) are not masked and also check the employer. They can punish them for too long work hours or hiring "illegals".

What I have seen of ICE in the media it feels a bit one sided.

Authoritarian states often function via selective enforcement of laws. We see that here. They will use any angle, any technicality to remove someone. Lived here for almost 50 years and are a productive member of your community but you're on a stayed order of release pending you check in regularly and you do so? Sorry, we changed our minds and are deporting you because legally we can. Please come with us in the unmarked car. [0]

Tried to kill police officers while trying to overturn an election on behalf of the dear leader? We'll pardon you and give you a job on a task force about weaponization of government. [1]

The law will be applied to the harshest extent to those Trump and his ilk see as enemies and will be warped in favor of his current friends.

Or, as a Preuvian facist president put it: "For my friends, anything; for my enemies, the law!"

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/03/ice-iran-don... [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/02/january-6-ri...

Perhaps you should read the law. "Unlawful presence in the United States" is a civil offense, just like a parking ticket.

What other civil offenses you think should be enforced with secret police and concentration camps?

You need a refresher on what police state means:

> a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police

Simply enforcing laws is not "becoming a police state", the current administration is doing far worse than this, and is actually blatantly and arbitrarily breaking laws according to multiple courts in various jurisdictions.

This includes ICE which has become a tool of this police state by deporting people (including in a case a US citizen, a two-year-old girl) without due process.

The trouble with laws is two-fold: poorly designed legislation is easily abused by those who enforce it, and regulatory capture often prevents necessary changes to existing laws.

A police state does not mean "a state where laws are enforced." The government is not establishing a police state because it's enforcing laws. It's establishing a police state because it's establishing a police state. But I suspect you already knew that, because I've seen comments like this one far too many times to continue assuming good faith.

This ice stuff is more than that. The law and order stuff is more about getting law and order focused people like you onboard.

You should read about how Mussolini came to power and consolidated control. We’re not building a $49B paramilitary force and database to find typos in 50 year old naturalization documents to deport their descendants for law and order. ICE is something else.

If we had laws Trump would be in jail. If we respected immigration laws Trump would be in jail. Since he he's in the white house I don't think we can saw the US takes following the law very seriously

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>> will never make your day better

> the benefits are limited

So, which is it?

Nobody forgets that, it’s just that abuse and misconduct sour that. In many communities, people have to weigh the odds that reporting a crime will lead to more problems for them than it will help, with consequences ranging from lack of help to theft to rape or even being shot by mistake. American police departments have largely set themselves above the law, so the average person doesn’t know whether they’re getting a good cop who is genuinely trying to help them or the bad cop whose behavior has been covered up by their fellow officers for years. Anyone concerned about public opinion of police should be focused on accountability and oversight to rebuild public trust.

> Consider yourself lucky that you've never had to call the cops as a victim.

I have, multiple times. They don't give a shit. In my case, the only reason to reach out to them is to get documentation for insurance or to start the legal process for obtaining restraining orders through courts.

People forget that calling the cops as a victim also costs lives. There have been more than enough cases of someone calling in a wellness check on someone who ends up getting murdered by police instead of helped, or victims who call the police and end up getting shot or arrested by them.

The police as they are now in North America are not a good option, they're just the least worst option. You call them and they show up and you hope that they cause more problems for the offender than the victim, but that's never guaranteed.

I've only had to call the cops a few times, but they usually put me on hold. 50/50 if they actually do anything or just give me the law enforcement equivalent of this meme- https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-aint-reading-all-that (aka "please don't file a report because it makes our metrics look bad)

Sometimes, maybe, and increasingly rarely. I live in Texas. Ask me about Uvalde.

I have not been unusually lucky in that way, though. I can think of half a dozen occasions when the kind of people who call the cops would have done so, but I didn't, because I expected they would do no good - if they bothered to show up at all - and might well have caused a lot of harm.

Yeah, it's great that someone shows up three hours late and writes a worse report than you would.

>Consider yourself lucky that you've never had to call the cops as a victim. People forget that cops also save lives.

I have. Several times. In the latter two cases (burglaries at my home and my brother's home -- one in NYC and the other in the Bay Area), the police were spectacularly inept and completely useless.

In the first case, the police arrested the perpetrators more by happenstance than design, despite the fact that these kids (all except the 22 year-old ringleader were 16 or younger) had been committing similar crimes for months.

As the old saw goes, "I don't hate the police, I just feel better when they're not around."

I called the cops as a victim of a violent crime. They put me in handcuffs because I was the person on the scene who best fit the profile of a perpetrator, despite the actual perpetrators standing there next to me. I gave them a video and audio recording of the crime being committed. I did not get my cellphone back. Later, I went to court with the perpetrators, and their only penalty was paying me a fine which was slightly less than what I paid in legal costs.

Cops are not your friends, even as a victim; neither are lawyers or judges. Treat the whole justice system more like a Linux server with an SQL injection: amoral, and can be made to do anything you want, if you're evil and happen to know how which levers to pull and how to not get caught.

Since it's relevant here, I am a white man.

Consider yourself lucky that you've never called the cops as a victim and then been further victimized by the police.

I have. They showed up late and didn't do anything useful

I've called cops as a victim. They were less than helpful to say the least. If anything, they were annoyed that I even bothered to ask for help.

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Arrest my ass. If they don’t mirandize, give you a phone call and immediate and consistent access to a lawyer, then it’s abduction.

>"who will hold them accountable

Politicians looking to score brownie points with either the public or the state itself.

So basically you're SOL if you're not a more equal animal or connected to them (Skip Gates), a public persona (Whistlin Diesel), attractive woman (Karen Read, though you can argue that nobody has held the cops accountable on this one, yet) or highly sympathetic individual.

There is some argument to be made that the truth comes out eventually in these sorts of matters but that's not gonna make Breonna Taylor any less dead or the Phonesavanh's kid from being any less disabled.

I think the Floyd factor also prevents cops who are alone or in a pair from escalating stuff unnecessarily as much as they used to which is where a lot of these abuses historically come from.

So there’s this thing called the judiciary…

> Being "multi-generation" (aka "clearly white"?) doesn't factor into it -- all residents are owed this protection, AFAIK.

That's my understanding, too. I do happen to be white, but by multi-generation, I mean that I'm not a recent immigrant, nor are my parents, or theirs, so ICE doesn't have any clear power over me that I'm aware of. Similarly, the vast majority of my Black neighbors have been here for many, many years; same deal for them.

> As a side note, I'd be way more afraid of "flunkies" than any other type of law enforcement.

Same here. Being arrested for a BS reason would be quite the hassle, but it sure beats getting shot by a masked try-hard.

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For sure. I think I'm reasonably well connected and could make a political nightmare for anyone who deported me illegally, but that's slim consolation if I'm trying urgently to learn the language of whatever prison I'm in.

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Indeed - but even if you have a license, there is no expectations to carry it when you drive. If the police request they can give you a 'Producer' which historically was where you had to attend a police station with your license and insurance documents - but they can check insurance online via ANPR (automatic number plate recognition) before they've even stopped you.

Getting into clubs as a teenager was comical - as there is no standard ID most people had 'work ID' that was just a laminated bit of paper. Or would carry a paper drivers license with no photo on it.

I’m a latino in Germany of all places and for years I didn’t carry any identification because the only one I had was my passport, the german work permit was just a sticker in one of the pages. I am obviously not gonna risk losing my passport, so it was home.

Police never stopped me, but when I asked “what should I do?” they were more than understanding of the situation and just said that in the worst case I gotta go home grab it.

Only recently I got a German Personalausweis in the shape of a card.

History is filled with people who dug their own graves while a person with a gun pointed at them told them to do it.

It takes an exceptional person to act before their fate is sealed and the majority of passengers, if not all of them, will be in a state of denial or shock at the situation they are in preventing them from action. Others who might want to act, but not having been in the situation before, will think about what to do or when the right moment to act is, and the right moment will never come, especially if the hijackers can guarantee the first person who acts dies.

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You definitely can. I was prompting the parent commenter to see if they had made that connection or not.

The shorts and shirt is state dependent, too. If you're in California, the shorts and shirts are optional (indecent exposure requires "intent to arose or offend")

The person you replied to was pointing out a typo in their parent post: "more tan", referring to skin color and the demonstrable effect it has on interactions with law enforcement.

Yeah, sometimes people develop an antipathy to certain social structures, and then that antipathy is defined as anti-social I guess, but there's probably no amount of Jantelov you can lay on that will make them change their minds.

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That's in poor taste, but only because it cost them money.

That's a nice ideal. I honestly kind of agree with you in the sense that I wish that was how things were. But in my view, it's easier to think about the police as a force whose primary purpose is to enforce the property rights of the capital holding class. In the United States there have been court rulings clarifying that police officers are never obligated to risk their lives.

If you look at the actual numbers, at least in the US, policing can really only be viewed as a risky profession from a white-collar point of view. According to OSHA, construction workers, truck drivers, farmers, and even pilots all have a greater likelihood of dying on the job.

No they shouldn’t.

In an ideal world police are helping tourists find their way to their destination, helping grannies cross the street and writing the occasional traffic fine.

Where I live, violent crime is rare.

thanks. and yikes! I've been a motorcycle rider for over a decade, many thousands of miles, now on my 3rd bike -- and somehow I'm just now learning this.

Disclaimer: I despise this administration, and think ICE should be abolished.

I would assume they mean that cops have a general duty to prevent/catch crime. So all you're doing by notifying people with waze or head taps is saying "hey there's police there!" Which everyone has a right to know.

However, because ICE is specialized, warning people of their presence might be seen as more akin to attempting to warn someone that their house is about to be raided by the FBI

iOS dev but not expert in how push notifications are implemented but confused by this claim, both platforms you need a device specific token because? of course you do? I feel like I am missing something

Sadly they don't specify why that's not necessary with iOS, I'm so curious how that's any different. They need some ID to send push notifications, and Apple keeps those registered to devices for delivery. I don't get how that's any different from Firebase push notifications and wish they could actually explain that.

Isn't that true of any notification system? You're the one setting the payload, you can encrypt it before it gets to Google or Apple.

That was public ass kissing but it didn't work. Tarrifs hurt apple. Trump is fixated on making iPhone in USA which is not good for apple's business.

You misspelled "Tim Apple."

Except they don't believe in free-speech absolutism. They say they do, but they obviously don't, because every time one of them gets in control of speech, they make it substantially less free.

3x more than the Marine Corps, for those at home keeping score.

A military branch (either de facto or de jure) that exists for the majority purpose to directly target, round up, and imprison or deport individuals on U.S. soil - especially with a proven record of limiting due process - should have NEVER happened. I cannot stress enough, we're a few bad days - and more and more likely 1 executive action away - from at-scale "Tree of Liberty" stuff.

Over what timeframe and earmarked for what?

Let's figure out accurately what scale and scope of damage and harassment is coming.

See also: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ice-budget-big-beautiful-b...

I don’t believe we will have another free and fair election in this country.

Past performance estimates future results, and it shows that while Democrats don't actively make things worse, they also don't actively make things better. This is illustrated in the "ratchet and pawl model.

When the Republicans are in power they move things rightwards. When the Democrats are in power they don't move things in either direction. The net effect is a move to the right, and you cannot influence that by voting, and the overall rate of movement depends on how often each party wins, which you can influence by voting.

The chance that a third party wins and moves things leftwards is zero.

> ...but meanwhile the government should not just give up the rule of law.

Isn't due process a rule of law? How about laws against bribery?

The mission creep of the ICE Gestapo will eventually include deporting (forced disappearance and exiling) US citizens who don't agree with the cult^H^H^H^Hadministration.

The self-unware irony...

> is not the only way

> There are other paths.

But there aren't if no one walks them. How did Trump manage to almost instantly shut down the 10k (or whatever it is) a day crossings the previous administration said was impossible to stop?

Because if you're the party of illegal immigration and you oppose voter ID (because your core voters have such low expectations of African Amerticans that you can claim it's about them not being able to get an ID) then you can import voters.

And then you can indeed also claim "well they're here now; nothing can be done", and indeed do nothing. But that is also not the only path. No path is the only path, so using that criticism selectively is deliberately misleading.

Yes, indeed. When the wild west was a meat grinder bodies were needed. And no one was paid benefits from other peoples' taxes, so it was real freedom (and responsibility), as adding people didn't add cost.

Both of those things have radically changed.

The issue is much older than the current US administration : Apple has been listed as participating to PRISM since 2012, and considering the whole opacity of the Patriot Act (and its derivatives), the secret courts in particular, it makes whatever they (or any other US company) might say about their commitment to privacy (when the opponent is the US government) rather irrelevant.

(Personally, I am suspecting that they do try much more than some other companies, but again, the opacity makes it impossible to verify.)

Apple has resisted pressure from law enforcement in the past. That gives me a real reason to believe that they will not fold in the future.

If there is any silver lining in any of this, it may be that people will finally start taking privacy as not completely irrelevant trade-off to convenience. I am not really holding my breath, but if people do not have that level of self-preservation in relatively clear instances, it probably does not matter anyway.

Apple tracks user location too. If you log into your iCloud from a country you've never been to, you're going to have to need to provide your 2FA code even with a valid session token. They're not stupid.

Apple is very much in favour of user privacy, as long as that privacy means "protecting your data from third parties". When it comes to the data Apple itself collects, they're far less conservative. They don't share information derived from their massive databases per se, but they do keep track.

Thanks to Apple and Find My, stalking people is easier than ever. The company can look up where you are and where you've been. They'd probably fight a court order to provide live location data to ICE, but who knows what that'll mean with the current American government.

Even on iOS, user data ends up in the hands of data brokers through ads. They're not supposed to collect all that data, but that's not stopping an unethical company from trying.

Android's privacy issues are there, but only if you're protecting your privacy against companies. If you're trying to protect your privacy against the government, there's no difference, really.

But Google doesn't have to be involved! GrapheneOS is specifically a de-googled Android. Even for normal Google-y Android, you could provide the APK to side-load, so it doesn't go through the Play Store or Google's FCM at all, an option you don't have with Apple.

I think this is what the Graphene posts are trying to say.

As others mention, having a web app would make a lot of sense.

ICEBlock is actively lying, is not open source and is confidently misleading many.

While I don't want to assume regular fed honeypot, we can at the very least be certain that it's an app made by an Apple Kool-Aid drinking person. iOS is, in many ways, more susceptible to governement subpoenas than an Android app would ever be. Sideloading, UnifiedPush, maintaining a connection to a server to handle notifications yourself are all more secure than just trusting that Apple will not just hand you over to the cops.

In addition, if the author is worried about a subpoena, it means that they're US based. Which is an absurdly stupid thing to do if you're going to make a fascist-reporting app while living in a fascist country.

I think this is a very good question to ask, along with why the Trump admin is threatening the developer rather than Apple. Forcing Apple to take it down is the only way to get rid of it now that it’s been published. Combine that with the fact that most people had never heard of this app before Trump made it go viral. I think we’ve all had enough conspiracy theories to last a lifetime, but it would be wise to exercise caution here.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114783982297156136

This is exactly what will happen. If you criticize MAGA, the Man come and take you away.

Serving tiles sucks. Generating tiles sucks even more. In CPU time, in storage, in network. It's really not something you want to handle yourself, and most of the OSM alternatives end up basically only preloading a small area. Their vector renderer's performance is also somewhat bad.

The tricky part here is receiving notifications in your proximity while the app is in the background. Native apps can request permission to track your location at all times, but I don't think that's an option for PWAs.

Unfortunately?

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> why no government for the past 20 years did not bother to change those laws?

There have been efforts by all presidents over the last 20 years to do so.

Obama increased the rate of deportations and doubled border patrols as part of a gambit to reach consensus on immigration reform. Congress didn't take up the offer. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2013/01/29/preside....

Trump (first term) put forward reforms that never passed the Senate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAISE_Act).

Biden late in his term put forward an immigration reform package that Trump, as a candidate, guided his party to reject. https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/unraveling-misinformation-...

The US Congress is not an effective institution. It is captured by lobbying dollars. And the specific geographies each member represents in the House of Representatives have been organized to create partisan (far-left/far-right) districts that don't elect middle-ground candidates. Congress is more partisan than the country in general and also corrupted by financial influence. By design, the US Congress requires broad consensus to operate (bills need to pass the house, the senate, and then be signed by the president; to pass the senate, many bills need 2/3rds approval in practice). Congress has been largely unable to reach this broad consensus (on many issues, not just immigration) over the last many years.

Prior to this administration, ICE wouldn't go into schools, churches and courthouses.

This no longer the case.

The real question is that if the Dems ever get power back, what can be done to punish the bad people who participated in all this criminality?

With every other social norm being broken, I don't see why political reprisals shouldn't be the way forward. Just say that any of the pardons were illegal[1], and start stripping citizenship from anyone involved in this.

The genie's out of the bottle, and not punishing the thugs involved in this would just embolden them and their minions to try harder the next time they have power. Criminality should have consequences.

Deprivation of rights under color of law is a serious crime in this country, and should be treated as such.

[1] The current administration regularly declares immigration decisions made by the previous one illegal, and retroactively applies that label to the people affected by them. I'm not sure why any of its decisions should be worth the paper they are printed on, if it is ever theown out.

> People would have to be 100% off the grid which is nearly impossible and miserable these days

Or you can just use someone else's identity. There's more incentive now than ever.

$140 billion for 15 million illegal immigrants is under $10,000 per deportation, which strikes me as kind of light, given that as the process is likely to involve international plane flights, board. and so on.

I don't think there are any plans to deport citizens or legal immigrants, as opposed to illegal aliens.

To be fair we already have lots of mandatory apps already...... Facebook,Netflix,etc are system apps on most androids

We already have toms

Not a honey pot for immigrants but for dissidents and anyone anti ice or anti administration

I don't care if it's "productive" in some narrow sense. If I discover that someone works for or with ICE during the current administration, I am precommitting to lose my mind over it. I'll block them, undermine them, blacklist them, do whatever I can to punish them for their heinous actions. I understand and accept that this diminishes the incentives for ICE to behave incrementally better, because I don't think that behaving incrementally better is adequate. ICE has a lot of hiring coming up with their new budget, and I want every applicant to understand that taking the job will ruin their life.

So far as I can tell, the girl left with her parents (who are not US citizens). This has been the pattern in all of these cases that I have heard about so far. It’s completely disingenuous to suggest that these situations are equivalent to “American citizens being deported” like they are running no-knock raids on farmsteads in Idaho.

These children are still entitled to return if they are in the custody of a guardian who has a legal right to reside in the US.

I am reading “potential citizen” as “a detainee who claims to be an American citizen whose citizenship status was not ascertained.” The article doesn’t really give a good indication of if these cases had any merit. Since officers are supposed to stop the interview if they believe the individual is a US citizen, I suspect that these deportations were warranted. Law enforcement can get things wrong, but in this case, I haven’t heard of any documented instances where this has happened.

> Wikipedia has a good round of sources for the recent removals of US children:

This article cites two examples, and in both instances the parents were residing in the country illegally with children who were not even in grade school yet. Jus Soli leads to all kinds of absurdities like this. The idea that a 2 year old being sent back to his mother’s country of origin is comparable to “American citizens being deported” is farcical; it’s technically true, but completely misleading. The people making these claims intend to frighten the audience into believing that regular immigration enforcement actions like these are somehow comparable to kidnapping people off of the street.

"Attack" is when your arms get in the way of their baton swinging at your face.

You’re going to have to make a convincing argument that alerting people of a traffic cop isn’t the same as alerting people of police presence in general, and that the merits of one has more weight for the usage of someone already committing crimes.

As it is, by batting for the legality of alerting traffic checks, you’re already batting for the alert and notification of police presence - because that’s what traffic checks consist of

Well, mine doesn't go above iOS 17. I triple checked it now.