NYT to start searching deleted ChatGPT logs after beating OpenAI in court

48 points by miles 1 day ago | 13 comments
  • bn-l 9 hours ago
    > Instead, only a small sample of the data will likely be accessed, based on keywords that OpenAI and news plaintiffs agree on. That data will remain on OpenAI's servers, where it will be anonymized, and it will likely never be directly produced to plaintiffs.

    I’m glad about this detail.

    • sandspar 19 hours ago
      What is the NYT's stance here? Is it pure spite? I guess their lawyers told them this is the winning move, and perhaps it is. But it just seems so blatantly wrong.

      If you look at Reddit's r/ChatGPT, you'll quickly notice that the median use of ChatGPT is for therapy.

      Is the NYT really ok with combing through people's therapy logs?

      • tashoecraft 10 hours ago
        I find it interesting you are blaming the NYT on this and not ChatGPT for keeping these logs in the first place. If openAI didn't keep logs, then there would be nothing to search, and a more harmful actor couldn't accomplish something far more nefarious. Saying that there could be confidential information in the logs, so that means we shouldn't access it, should also mean the logs shouldn't be kept.
        • ycombinatrix 32 minutes ago
          Did you consider reading the article before writing out this comment? Please do next time.
          • nrds 9 hours ago
            As explained in literally the first paragraph of TFA, the court ordered openai to start keeping these logs. They didn't do it by choice.
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            • goatlover 18 hours ago
              Is there an expectation of privacy using ChatGPT? Do users think nobody is ever going to be looking at their logs?
              • conception 17 hours ago
                If you are a paying member and are not sharing prompts, yes?
                • noman-land 12 hours ago
                  Stop having this expectation. It's factually incorrect.
              • jaimex2 19 hours ago
                They don't care. This is purely for a business upper hand.

                OpenAI should probably encrypt the chats and lock itself out going forward. Collect whatever metrics they need on the fly before locking.

                • heavyset_go 19 hours ago
                  OpenAI would never lock themselves out of free training data.
              • vintermann 15 hours ago
                Now is the time to go have a chat with ChatGPT about how much NYT sucks. Maybe it can help come up with insulting things to call their lawyers too.