The engineer who fixed his own heart

100 points by drucken 11 years ago | 39 comments
  • graeham 11 years ago
    Aorta wrapping was actually pioneered in the 1950's, before the graft replacements that the article mentions, but generally the wrapping had a poor result and was abandonded as a technique. (see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1802172/pdf/anns...)

    Generally the trend in vascular surgery these days is to less invasive procedures such as a stent graft.

    • mherdeg 11 years ago
      And I think the journal article about this particular process is from 2009 ( http://icvts.oxfordjournals.org/content/10/3/360.short ).

      So, hey, points to the BBC for writing an article about something that continues to be interesting instead of something that's "brand new".

      • graeham 11 years ago
        I find it fascinating that such an old procedure has been revisited sucessfully (not completely unheard of in medicine either). Perhaps better materials (now a polymer mesh) than used previously (cellophane wrap!).
      • 10dpd 11 years ago
        Sorry but when you use the term "generally" in a medical context you can be sure the following statement is incorrect. This article is referring to the aortic root which cannot be stinted due to its proximity to the heart.
        • graeham 11 years ago
          "Generally" refers to an average trend, not that all examples must follow that trend.

          I am not that familiar with Marfan's or this case, so I don't know if this device is useful in this case (http://www.medtronic.com/patients/heart-valve-disease/about-...), but there are stent-grafts that also replace the aortic value so that the stent-graft can be used close to the heart, and you can be sure that medical device companies are looking at ways of using stent-grafts in close proximity to the aortic valve without requiring its replacement.

      • Pxtl 11 years ago
        Marfan syndrome makes you tall and lanky, so they actually have to watch for it carefully in highschool basketball teams. The build it gives them makes them a natural at the sport, but the stress of the game combined with the heart weakness caused by Marfan Syndrome can be lethal.

        I suspect a lot of kids who lost their basketball dreams in a heart-attack will be lining up for this procedure.

      • woolywonder 11 years ago
        Tal provided one of my favourite Ted talks on this subject: http://www.ted.com/talks/tal_golesworthy_how_i_repaired_my_o...
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          • icegreentea 11 years ago
            I think your brother is probably rolling his eyes when he agrees that yes it would be great if we had a cheap and effective universal mass screening tool for cancer. I mean, why would -any- doctor not want that. Why would any cancer researcher not want that. Oh, but it would mean they would lose their funding you say. But in exchange, you get ever-lasting fame. Oh, and you don't have to worry about having probes shoved up your ass, or have bits of your breast cut out for inspection when you get to "that age".

            I think your supposition ignores a lot of the latent difficulties in the subject area. You could very well rephrase that as "why not try to create a drug that just kills all cancer with minimal side effects as it seems crazy to have to cut someone open and cut it out by hand".

            The answer to "why haven't we done more" is "because it's hard and we're working on it". Why isn't automatic machine translation any better? Why are natural language interfaces so crappy? Why does my speech to text program make mistakes? Why are we still using steel and concrete? Why don't have we have a room-temperature superconducting power grid? Why do we still have to get our meat from animals on a farm? Why don't we just make a cure for HIV? Why don't we just make a cure for the common cold? Why don't we just have a malaria vaccine (they really are working on this one! It's HARD!)?.

            The answer to all of these questions is "because it's hard and we're working on it".

            • dmd 11 years ago
              Ok, how about "why can't I get vaccinated for Lyme disease?"
        • renang 11 years ago
          For the ones wondering how the device looks like: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01/16/article-1243723-07...
          • tonyplee 11 years ago
            Does the wrapping material dissolve after a while or last for the rest of one's life?
            • devb 11 years ago
              If it dissolved, it would be pointless to have it put in.
          • kposehn 11 years ago
            To the OP: thanks for posting this. You may have just changed a life very much for the better (not mine, but someone I know quite well).
            • Wingman4l7 11 years ago
              We need more collaboration between engineers and the field of medicine. I found the comments about the development process and his doctors' opinions of different approaches coming from outside the medical community almost as insightful and interesting as the invention itself.
              • donquichotte 11 years ago
                Sweet, finally a Hacker News post that features an actual engineer!
                • dmak 11 years ago
                  I wish they went more into detail about the devise itself. I was hoping to see a picture.
                • gonzo 11 years ago
                  I don't have Marfan's, but I did suffer a ascending aortic dissection in aug 2009. It was repaired with a Dacron stint. (Basically about 3" of my aorta is now artificial.)

                  This sounds like a great thing.

                  • fernly 11 years ago
                    I have some personal experience with the related problem. At age 60 a gradually increasing "murmur" led to a diagnosis of Aortic Ectasia[0], a stretching of the ring of muscle that is the base for the aortic valve. As the valve widens, the three leaflets overlap less and the valve doesn't seal properly, making the heart less efficient. In addition my ascending aorta, the big arched tube that is the subject of the above article, was stretching in the manner described. These effects can be the result of Marfan Syndrome[1] but I don't have any of the other signs of it, such as long, spidery fingers and toes (fold your thumb across your palm: if the tip of the thumb projects beyond the outside of your palm, you should read up on Marfan).

                    The "garden-hose wrap" method described in this article was not mentioned to me, probably because it would have no use on the more important failure, the stretched valve.

                    However, I was given a clear choice of replacement valve: metal or tissue. Tal Golesworthy presumably would have had the same choice, but the article doesn't mention that there is a choice.

                    The metal (actually metal frame with a carbon-fiber flap) replacement valve lasts pretty much forever. On the minus side, it sometimes has a harmless, but audible "tick" noise, but its main drawback is that it can be a source of blood clots, hence the need for the lifelong course of blood thinner. Miss a few days and you could have a stroke from a clot.

                    I opted for the tissue valve, which is taken from a pig (or a cow, if you object to pork products). All its cells removed, leaving only the collagen form, so there's no host-graft immune reaction. It's silent, it doesn't encourage clot formation -- but it doesn't last forever. At some point in the next decade I'll need another one.

                    The new valve and about 7 inches of new Dacron aortic arch were sewed in. The surgeon commented afterward that my removed aorta "felt very soft" and was "poor quality tissue" and that I was "fortunate" that it hadn't failed.

                    This leads me to wonder: a common failure mode of the aorta is Aortic Dissection[2] in which the tube delaminates. Rather than bursting, the lining separates from the supporting wall, and high-pressure blood gets between the layers and spreads them, reducing the cross-section of the pipe. (It's reputed to be one of the most painful experiences possible.) My wonder is: while the "hose-wrap" fix described in this article might prevent ruptures, would it be an effective preventative for aortic dissection?

                    [0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annuloaortic_ectasia [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfan_syndrome [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aortic_dissection

                    • gonzo 11 years ago
                      In a word, No. It wouldnt fix the false lumen.

                      This is me:

                      http://aorticdissection.com/2011/12/06/jim-thompson-47/

                      • z3niMAGiNE 11 years ago
                        If it has already dissected it's obviously too late. The parent comment asked if it would prevent dissection in those aneurysms that haven't yet dissected which is probably a more complicated question. It would probably depend on the elasticity of the vessel since we don't see dissection exclusively on absurdly dilated aortas. At the very least we can guess that it would help to extend the life of the native artery. Of course only long term monitoring of these patients will give us a somewhat conclusive answer.
                        • gonzo 11 years ago
                          It's not always the aneurysm that causes the dissection. Sometimes the dissection causes the aneurysm. The theory is that a plaque tears a he in the surface of the aorta.
                      • vinceguidry 11 years ago
                        > would it be an effective preventative for aortic dissection?

                        Even if it could measurably reduce the chances for known risk groups, would it really be prudent to perform open-heart surgery on a patient without a current condition?

                        • colanderman 11 years ago
                          (It's reputed to be one of the most painful experiences possible.)

                          Tangent: why have humans (animals in general I guess) evolved pain receptors inside their bodies?

                          • coldtea 11 years ago
                            Because the skin is not the only point that can give information of something going wrong?
                            • colanderman 11 years ago
                              Yes, but when you're a caveman or peasant, there's not much you can do about physical trauma to your internal organs. External pain is useful because you can usually take action to stop it.

                              (Obviously with the advent of modern medicine, internal pain is useful.)

                        • VladRussian2 11 years ago
                          i'm wondering whether the fact that it is in UK is important, ie. wrt. who paid for the [experimental] surgery. As we all know, while coming up with idea is great, an actual implementation faces the issues of resources/money.
                          • pcrh 11 years ago
                            UK or not is probably not too important. The surgeon mentioned (Tom Treasure) is at University College London (his surgery is likely based at Guy's Hospital, as mentioned in the OP). This was most likely the beneficiary of a grant for medical innovations, funded by either the NHS or one of the non-profits such as the Wellcome Trust or the British Heart Foundation.

                            [1] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/operational-research/the_team/TomTreasu...

                            • frandroid 11 years ago
                              Having single-payer healthcare is important for this to happen, yes.
                            • coldtea 11 years ago
                              Hasn't Tony Stark already done this?
                              • mwetz 11 years ago
                                Great title.
                                • blaco 11 years ago
                                  am i the only one who was expecting a Tony Stark photo ?
                                  • chrislomax 11 years ago
                                    I don't know why you were marked down for this. Not marked up maybe but I was going to say the same thing!
                                    • jonahoffline 11 years ago
                                      No, I immediately thought of him too haha
                                    • notdrunkatall 11 years ago
                                      Sounds incredibly obvious.
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